[Leica] Re:Black ZI

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

In a half-a-heart-beat. It would make the M, or any similar camera, a
far more all around useful tool. The silky shutter is exactly as you
described it - charming. It does not, however, get one photos one would
otherwise not get. Fire off an M while standing at the front of a lovely
old New England church, during a quiet part of a wedding service, and
people hear the damn thing in the back of the church. Yup - it's
infinitely quieter than most of the alternatives - but it's a long way
from silent.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Scott McLoughlin
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 2:02 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Black ZI


Me'thinks the quiet silk shutter is quite a big part of the Leica M's
charm, but not so great a part of its function.  I'd happily give it up
for the FM3a shutter's fast shutter and high flash sync, especially if
the Nikon flash system came with it :-)

B. D. Colen wrote:

>I'd love to know when shutter noise - not old-fashioned SLR clatter - 
>but RF shutter noise, cost anyone on this list an important shot. 
>Because I can tell you that it has NEVER cost me any shot at all. Yes, 
>the M is wonderfully quite, and I like that fact. But there are many 
>cameras that are wonderfully quite - (as I think I posted a while ago, 
>when I fired off my M, and then my E-1 DSLR to demonstrate the M's 
>quiet to my students, they all thought the M was "louder" than the 
>DSLR. I think they're about the same, but the sounds are 'different.') 
>Certainly the Rollei TLRs are quieter than the M.
>
>What matters in unobtrusive, stealth if you will, photography, is NOT 
>the shutter noise, but how you handle the camera, and how you conduct 
>yourself. If YOU are quiet and unobtrusive, and if you don't keep 
>bouncing the camera up and down from your face, you can shoot with a 
>shoulder mounted rocket launcher and no one will notice you.
>
>All of which is to say, the new Zeiss M body may or may not be any 
>good, but the 'ohmygod' that shutter is noisier than an M is pretty 
>meaningless.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of

>Didier Ludwig
>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:40 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Re:Black ZI
>
>
>The ZI shutter might not only feel and sound like a Bessa shutter 
>(never
>
>had a ZI in my hands), but it definitely looks exactly like the shutter

>of my Bessa L. I guess it IS the Bessa shutter. The Bessa L is
>significantly 
>louder than a M6, but afaik, the Bessa R2 and and R3a shutters have
been
>
>improved and make less noise.
>
>  
>
>>The shutter isn't any louder then a Bessa.  When I handled one this
>>summer
>>at a trade show it felt and sounded just like a Bessa.
>>Christopher Saganich
>>    
>>
>
> >> http://www.screengang.com/deed/ZI/index.php?img=02
>
>
> 
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