Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/23

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Black ZI
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Sat Apr 23 23:03:12 2005
References: <031601c54800$5357f3c0$6501a8c0@ccapr.com>

Me'thinks the quiet silk shutter is quite a big part of the Leica M's
charm, but not so great a part of its function.  I'd happily give it up
for the FM3a shutter's fast shutter and high flash sync, especially
if the Nikon flash system came with it :-)

B. D. Colen wrote:

>I'd love to know when shutter noise - not old-fashioned SLR clatter -
>but RF shutter noise, cost anyone on this list an important shot.
>Because I can tell you that it has NEVER cost me any shot at all. Yes,
>the M is wonderfully quite, and I like that fact. But there are many
>cameras that are wonderfully quite - (as I think I posted a while ago,
>when I fired off my M, and then my E-1 DSLR to demonstrate the M's quiet
>to my students, they all thought the M was "louder" than the DSLR. I
>think they're about the same, but the sounds are 'different.') Certainly
>the Rollei TLRs are quieter than the M.
>
>What matters in unobtrusive, stealth if you will, photography, is NOT
>the shutter noise, but how you handle the camera, and how you conduct
>yourself. If YOU are quiet and unobtrusive, and if you don't keep
>bouncing the camera up and down from your face, you can shoot with a
>shoulder mounted rocket launcher and no one will notice you. 
>
>All of which is to say, the new Zeiss M body may or may not be any good,
>but the 'ohmygod' that shutter is noisier than an M is pretty
>meaningless. 
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>Didier Ludwig
>Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:40 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Re:Black ZI
>
>
>The ZI shutter might not only feel and sound like a Bessa shutter (never
>
>had a ZI in my hands), but it definitely looks exactly like the shutter
>of 
>my Bessa L. I guess it IS the Bessa shutter. The Bessa L is
>significantly 
>louder than a M6, but afaik, the Bessa R2 and and R3a shutters have been
>
>improved and make less noise.
>
>  
>
>>The shutter isn't any louder then a Bessa.  When I handled one this 
>>summer
>>at a trade show it felt and sounded just like a Bessa.
>>Christopher Saganich
>>    
>>
>
> >> http://www.screengang.com/deed/ZI/index.php?img=02
>
>
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