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Subject: [Leica] LC1 vs 20D comparison
From: nathan.wajsman at planet.nl (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri Apr 8 09:19:30 2005
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Simon,

I think the best P&S companion to a 20D owner is the Canon G6. It is not 
so much the 7 megapixels--resolution is definitely not everything--but 
according to reviews it performs well up to ISO 400. The other advantage 
is that it uses the same batteries as the 20D, and the same CF cards, so 
no additional investment in those bits is necessary.

Nathan

Simon Ogilvie wrote:
> BD.  I agree about the sensor size, but I'm not convinced that noise
> is the only problem.  I used the LC-1 at 100ASA (its lowest setting)
> and the uniform colour areas in the pictures were always
> mosaic-patterned when the same areas on the 20D shots were uniformly
> smooth.  I think this is either caused by the differences between the
> CCD and CMOS sensors, or the in-camera image processing software, or
> most probably both.  I haven't been able to compare with a Digilux 2
> to see if its software does a better job.
> 
> The CCD in the LC1/digilux 2 is relatively large compared with most
> digital P&S's although I accept it's still a lot smaller than the
> 20D's.
> 
> Simon.
> 
> On Apr 8, 2005 4:13 PM, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>The limiting factor is NOT the resolution - it's the sensor size. I have
>>an 8 mgp P&S with a typically-tiny sensor, and an E-1 with a 5mpg 4/3
>>sensor - the 8mpg gets noisy by 400 iso and is a joke at 800. The E-1 is
>>fine at 400 and useable up to 1600, or in desperation, 3200. More over,
>>I can blow the E-1 images way up, and can't go as far with the 8 mgp
>>camera. Taking the LC1 or similar camera up to 8-10 mgp wouldn't improve
>>things - it would probably make them worse.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>Simon Ogilvie
>>Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:44 AM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] LC1 vs 20D comparison
>>
>>Hi Will,
>>
>>I agree - I really liked the LC1, but the form factor means it would be
>>competing with my 20D for usage and would lose out every time.  If I
>>wanted/needed to take something small and light, then the LC1 wouldn't
>>suit either.  For that, at the moment I'm using a Fuji F810, but I'm not
>>entirely happy with it.  Would you be able to post a full-size image
>>from your Sony for me to look at?  I've tried a Samsung camera with a
>>Zeiss lens, but the image quality wasn't good enough (for me at least).
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Simon.
>>
>>On Apr 8, 2005 3:28 PM, Will von Dauster <vondauster@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>Simon wrote (snipped):
>>>
>>>
>>>>However, the big decider for me was the image quality.  Doubtless
>>>>the LC1 is better than most if not all digital P&S cameras, but it's
>>
>>>>a long way behind the 20D in image quality.
>>>
>>>>Anyone else have similar or oposing opinions?
>>>
>>>A fair comparison and consistent with my own experience vv my 20D and
>>>a good friend's LC1. This is not to say that the photos from the LC1
>>>do not have their own character, which I find pleasing. It's main
>>>drawback is the limiting 5MP resolution. I wonder if we will see a 7.2
>>
>>>- 10MP version with a better and faster viewfinder. That would be very
>>
>>>interesting to me.
>>>
>>>I'm actually quite pleased, for a point and shoot, with my Sony DSC-V3
>>
>>>and its "Zeiss" lens.
>>>
>>>Will von Dauster
>>>
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