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Subject: [Leica] B. D. PAW
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Fri Mar 25 07:57:33 2005

So Photography equals Photojournalism?

> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:17:03 -0500
> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW
> 
> Oh, God, here we go...:-)
> Smith would be fired today because, oddly enough, while virtually all
> print and broadcast reporting journalism standards have deteriorated to
> a terrifying degree over the past 15 years, those for photo journalism
> have markedly improved. Frankly, that may have something to do with the
> advent of digital and the increasing ease with which one can alter or
> even fake images. While all sort of manipulation was acceptable, or at
> least winked at in Smith's day, today's photo journalists are, on the
> whole, held to a standard that says beyond cropping, you don't alter an
> image. You can use Photoshop to burn and dodge in order to bring the
> image close to what the eye may have seen, but beyond that, you don't
> fool with the image.
> 
> And as to your work - yes, you are a photographer - when you take each
> image. But I would argue that your end product is not a photograph, but
> rather a "photo composition," or a some such.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Philippe Orlent
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:07 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW
> 
> 
>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:56:22 -0500
>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW
>> 
>> Sure, you could tone in the darkroom, but again, this is a different
> matter. 
> Look, you've decided that you want to use multiple images to produce a
>> single image.
> (And yes, I know that one of
> Eugene Smith's iconic images was produced by sandwiching two negatives;
> I also know that today he'd be instantly fired for doing that. ;-))
> ---
> Thanks for your answer, B.D.
> But if I've decided anything it is only that I want to produce images
> using a camera, wether it is with a single image or with several. Also,
> I don't see why darkroom toning would be different to PS duotoning. I've
> done both with pretty much the same goal and results. Finally, and out
> of curiosity, why would Smith be fired today? For twisting the truth?
> IMO THE truth doesn't exist anymore, if it ever has, that is.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
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