[Leica] B. D. PAW

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

No - Not at all. But I think a "photograph" is a single image captured
by a camera. You are using photographic images to create a different
kind of art. That's all.

The bottom line, Philippe, is that we disagree, and will always disagree
on this. You have decided to do a project combining individual
photographs; I wish you good luck with the project, but I don't consider
the end product of what you are producing to be "photography." But I
know that there are many who disagree with me. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Philippe Orlent
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:57 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW


So Photography equals Photojournalism?

> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:17:03 -0500
> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW
> 
> Oh, God, here we go...:-)
> Smith would be fired today because, oddly enough, while virtually all 
> print and broadcast reporting journalism standards have deteriorated 
> to a terrifying degree over the past 15 years, those for photo 
> journalism have markedly improved. Frankly, that may have something to

> do with the advent of digital and the increasing ease with which one 
> can alter or even fake images. While all sort of manipulation was 
> acceptable, or at least winked at in Smith's day, today's photo 
> journalists are, on the whole, held to a standard that says beyond 
> cropping, you don't alter an image. You can use Photoshop to burn and 
> dodge in order to bring the image close to what the eye may have seen,

> but beyond that, you don't fool with the image.
> 
> And as to your work - yes, you are a photographer - when you take each

> image. But I would argue that your end product is not a photograph, 
> but rather a "photo composition," or a some such.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Philippe Orlent
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:07 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] B. D. PAW
> 
> 
>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:56:22 -0500
>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] B. D. PAW
>> 
>> Sure, you could tone in the darkroom, but again, this is a different
> matter.
> Look, you've decided that you want to use multiple images to produce a
>> single image.
> (And yes, I know that one of
> Eugene Smith's iconic images was produced by sandwiching two 
> negatives; I also know that today he'd be instantly fired for doing 
> that. ;-))
> ---
> Thanks for your answer, B.D.
> But if I've decided anything it is only that I want to produce images
> using a camera, wether it is with a single image or with several.
Also,
> I don't see why darkroom toning would be different to PS duotoning.
I've
> done both with pretty much the same goal and results. Finally, and out
> of curiosity, why would Smith be fired today? For twisting the truth?
> IMO THE truth doesn't exist anymore, if it ever has, that is.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Philippe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 


_______________________________________________
Leica Users Group.
See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information