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Subject: [Leica] RE: OT: A little history
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Wed Jan 26 11:04:19 2005
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Simon,
this aint actually true: at present we see a factor of 2 or so every 18 
months 
(about)in processor performance. So when you move from a 500 Mhz machine you 
go 
to a 1GHz or 2 GHz machine in about 18 months. Order of magnitude 
performance 
changes come (very roughly) every 4 yrs if you look at it from the level of 
chip 
performance. But if you look at it from the overall performance perspective, 
so 
many factors change simultaneously that effective throughput changes at 
least 
that frequently.

But sure as hell things are fed through on carefully pre-arranged 
timetables. I 
can think of many cases where a chip has sat in a lab (mine or those of 
others) 
and has been held back for more than simple manufacturing problems.

Peter


animal wrote:

> I have to disagree,from what i was taught in university ,order of 
> magnitude steps in computing are roughly 6 years apart.The improvements 
> consumers can buy in that period are carefully fed in to the market to 
> maximise profits.
> best regards
> simon jessurun
> amsterdam
> the netherlands
> 
> 
>> Having spent the majority of my life working for technology 
>> manufacturing companies, I can assure you that this is absolutely untrue.
>>
>> While there may be industries in which there is planned obsolescence, 
>> the computer industry is not one of them.
>>
>> The issue in the computer industry is that the engineers keep coming 
>> up with new stuff that is very much better than what existed a year 
>> ago. If you don't sell it, then your competitors will. If you don't 
>> innovate, you go out of business. Relentless innovation leaves a trail 
>> of obsolete devices, but if you start feeling sorry for the people who 
>> have to buy new ones, and slow down a little, they'll just buy from 
>> your competitors.
>>
>> In fact, quite the opposite is true. Development in the technology 
>> industry is in general hindered by a desire to be compatible with the 
>> past. If the hardware and software companies didn't worry about 
>> compatibility with the past, they could probably innovate 20% faster 
>> than they are doing now.
>>
>> No one is forcing you to buy newer faster better cameras and 
>> computers. As many people have said here, a 2.1 megapixel camera still 
>> takes great pictures. So why are camera companies racing to make and 
>> sell cameras with more megapixels? Because people will buy them. 
>> People want them. This isn't a conspiracy, it's just market demand at 
>> work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I believe one of the basic premises of contemporary
>>> technology development is the concept of "planned
>>> obsolescence," with the deliberate goal of encouraging
>>> consumers to buy new tools on a regular basis, in
>>> lock-step with the constantly increasing profit motive
>>> of the manufacturers.
>>
>>
>>
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