Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/05/19

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Subject: [Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.
From: jls at runbox.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed May 19 08:35:32 2004
References: <008601c43db2$0641b8e0$6701a8c0@CCA4A5EF37E11E> <Pine.SOL.4.58-L.0405191708070.8779@hedvig.uio.no>

 From 1972 until about 3 years ago, I did nearly everything with a 35/2. It 
just seemed to be the best fit for pictures that didn't have people in 
them. Now that I'm trying to get people in everything, the 35 seems too 
wide for me.

At 10:12 AM 5/19/2004, you wrote:
>Well, in my awkward way, I was thinking the same way. When I'm doing a job
>and have a real reason to be somewhere, I'm not so shy and do move in
>close. Then I need the 35 to keep me from getting too tight of shots.
>
>If I'm just walking around on the town, feeling like a fool pointing my
>camera here and there (kind of shy, when it comes right down to it), I
>don't have to get physically as close to fill the frame.
>
>If I'm really on a roll (and have been drinking) then the 24mm comes in
>handy :)
>
>Daniel
>
>On Wed, 19 May 2004, B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> > No...I mean that whatever lens you use, you want to fill the frame - so
> > if you're using a 21, say, unless you're shooting sweeping vistas you
> > will want to get close in order to fill the frame. If you're using a 35,
> > you'd step back a bit, and a bit further with a 50, and so on...Granted,
> > you might want to get really tight and close with any lens...But the
> > wider the lens, the more you have to move close to the subject to do
> > that...Similarly, if you want to include more of a scene, the longer the
> > lens, the further way from the scene you have to stand...so that's why I
> > said that the lens "controls" where you stand....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> > Daniel Ridings
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:41 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.
> >
> >
> > Yep ... if you're sneaking around, a 50mm is a good one. If you're on a
> > job and everyone knows there's some geek running around with a camera,
> > 35mm is great.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 19 May 2004, B. D. Colen wrote:
> >
> > > Except that....The lens you use often 'controls' where you stand...
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> > > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> > > Of Beddoe, Neil
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:32 AM
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'; 'Leica Users Group'
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.
> > >
> > >
> > > " Lenses of different focal lengths do have
> > > characteristics, based on their focal lengths, other than getting more
> >
> > > or less in the frame."
> > >
> > > I disagree.  Take a picture with a 50mm lens (or even a 21mm lens) and
> >
> > > crop to the middle of the picture and you've got the same shot you
> > > would have got from the same spot with a 90mm lens(grain and DOF
> > > excluded). You are right about my choice of lens though ( at least it
> > > made for  a provocative subject line).  I'm sure that if my M6 had
> > > come with a 35mm I'd be raving about that.  The point is that the lens
> >
> > > you use is usually much less important than where you stand.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am pleased that the 50mm lens worked for you, especially when it was
> >
> > > your only lens.  However, I submit for your consideration that its
> > > being a 50mm lens had far less to do with your success than the
> > > discipline enforced by using only one lens.  It could have been a
> > > 35mm, it could have been a 90mm, but it is the fact of having only one
> >
> > > lens that made you work harder at each picture you took.
> > >
> > >     Buzz Hausner
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org
> > > [mailto:lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Beddoe, Neil
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:49 AM
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> > > Subject: [Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.
> > >
> > >
> > > As everyone knows, you don't alter the viewpoint when you switch to a
> > > wider or longer lens, you just get more or less in the frame.  In most
> >
> > > cases, you can do this by walking forwards or backwards and at the
> > > same time see what changing perspective does to your shot which is
> > > much more interesting than just optically cropping the photograph.
> > >
> > > I like feet but I hate zooms.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
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In reply to: Message from bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.)
Message from daniel.ridings at muspro.uio.no (Daniel Ridings) ([Leica] 50mm lenses should be compulsory.)