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Subject: Re: [Leica] Oh ... It's COMING SOON! :-)
From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:01:06 +0100
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Sonny

Thanks.  My D1 is waiting for me at the dealer.  They do it with two 64MB
cards and two batteries.  Should get it tomorrow morning.  Interesting to
see if it is firmware upgradeable, as this often helps iron out some issues.

Tahnsk again to you and Tina foe the feedback and examples.  Certainly makes
for easier decisions!

Simon

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "SonC (Sonny Carter)" <sonc@sonc.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Oh ... It's COMING SOON! :-)


> The other images are both at iso 100, probably at the 2mp size
> setting, and cropped.
>
> I think I did some dodging and burning on both, for example, I pulled
> down the ray of light on the Priest, and darkened the people in the
> background.  Similar to actions I would do in a darkroom.
>
> Unfortunately, the Lumix LC5 seems to be discontinued.  It is the same
> camera as far as I can tell, as the Digilux 1, without the red spot.
>
> The Digilux has Photoshop elements, and the LC5 comes with Arc-soft
> editing.
>
> Like any tool, it takes some getting used to, but if you turn the auto
> white balance off, (I leave mine set a cloudy) and run it in Manual
> focus, it is fast as it can be. If the light is consistent, you can
> run it in manual exposure as well for additional speed.  The only slow
> thing is the write time, and that's why I usually keep it at medium
> size.
>
> Sonny
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Oh ... It's COMING SOON! :-)
>
>
> > Sonny
> >
> > Well, I can't see anything wrong with the 400 image, and at least I
> can see
> > things that I cannot with the 100 image.
> >
> > Those other two lowlight images are just superb.  Can you give me a
> bit more
> > technicla info- ISO setting, white balance manual or auto, any
> Photoshop
> > actions performed etc.
> >
> > I think the D1 looks likely to be in my bag ready for it's first
> outing at
> > the beginning of next week!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "SonC (Sonny Carter)" <sonc@sonc.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Oh ... It's COMING SOON! :-)
> >
> >
> > > Simon,
> > >
> > > I know you were directing your question to Tina, and it was by her
> > > example I bought my Lumix  (Lika Digilux 1.)
> > >
> > > I don't use it outside the  100 ISO setting, because the noise
> level
> > > is high, though  I would  if I needed to,  and I think there are
> some
> > > PS filters  available that would help reduce it.
> > >
> > > Here is a test I just shot that might answer your question about
> > > noise.
> > >
> > > http://www.sonc.com/LumixISO.htm
> > >
> > > The following are some shots in low light.
> > >
> > > http://www.sonc.com/ladoris.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.sonc.com/napoleon.htm
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > Sonny
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:40 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Oh ... It's COMING SOON! :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >> > >Tina
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sorry if this has been asked before but I have been away from
> the
> > > list
> > > > for a
> > > > > >good while.  Are you now using the Digilux for most shooting
> > > assignments,
> > > > in
> > > > > >replacement of your R camera?
> > > > >
> > > > > Simon -
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm now carrying the M7, the R6.2 (sometimes R8), and the
> Digilux
> > > for
> > > > > assignments.  I'm using about half film and half digital.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Have you already provided any feedback on the Digilux in
> terms of
> > > image
> > > > > >quality, ease of use etc. (which I assume are high or you
> would
> > > not be
> > > > > >trusting your professional work to the camera).  Of the links
> at
> > > the
> > > > bottom
> > > > > >of your message, which ones have Digilux digital images
> available
> > > to
> > > > view?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Digilux is giving me great photos.  All of the latest
> photos
> > > that I've
> > > > > posted on the news sites are from the Digilux.  Unfortunately,
> you
> > > have to
> > > > > subscribe and log-in to see them.  On the PDI site there is a
> > > > demonstration
> > > > > of the search feature that will come up with some.  Just
> search
> > > under
> > > > > photographer and put in my name.  You can also see great
> photos
> > > from the
> > > > > Digilux or Panasonic clone on SonC's site and Graham's
> beautiful
> > > photos
> > > > > from England.  He just posted some here:
> > > > > http://www.geebeephoto.com/html/irc2.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Alamy requires that you interpolate digital files up to 48 MB.
> > > It's
> > > > > possible with Genuine Fractals, but it's really stretching to
> take
> > > the
> > > > 10MB
> > > > > files from the Digilux to 48MB.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >In these times of decision between further investment in film
> or
> > > making
> > > > the
> > > > > >move to digital, I would value your opinion, even more so in
> that
> > > I can
> > > > get
> > > > > >a good deal on a Digilux right now!
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the Digilux is the best point and shoot digital that
> you
> > > can get
> > > > > right now.  The shutter lag time is the shortest available,
> the
> > > LCD screen
> > > > > is the largest available, the batteries last a long time and
> are
> > > easy to
> > > > > recharge, the camera is well-made and sturdy, the lens is the
> > > fastest
> > > > > available -
> > > > > Leica intended to make a reportage point and shoot digital and
> > > they did.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Digilux is a great way to get into digital without
> spending
> > > $7000.  If
> > > > > you normally shoot a lot of film, the Digilux will pay for
> itself
> > > almost
> > > > > immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking at digital SLR's because I would love to have the
> > > ability to
> > > > > use my Leica lenses on a digital SLR.  I know the digital
> can't
> > > take
> > > > > advantage of the great Leica glass!!  but I already have the
> > > lenses, they
> > > > > are fast, and I want to use them!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps -
> > > > >
> > > > > Tina
> > > >
> > > > Tina
> > > >
> > > > That does indeed help, as experience in the field is always
> better
> > > than
> > > > hurried reviews in magazines etc.  One final question if I may.
> > > >
> > > > I have heard that there is a lot of noise in images taken above
> > > ISO100,
> > > > particularly at ISO400.  Have you found this, and would you say
> that
> > > is is
> > > > any more intrusive than that from using an ISO400 colour film
> and
> > > scanning
> > > > it?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for your comments.  The Digilux does indeed seem a
> good
> > > route
> > > > into digital at a cost that can easily be recouped.  The ability
> to
> > > pay for
> > > > itself means that another investment in a year when technology
> had
> > > advanced
> > > > even further would seem less like money being wasted, and the
> > > learning curve
> > > > would be accomplished.
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> >
> >
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