Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/04/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Your comments does not make sense ... I did not take these pictures, and neither did you, so how in the world would I loose sleep over it. Plus how in the world did you know the model posed for this picture is a professional and couldn't care less. - --- Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com> wrote: > Professional models pose for these shots with the > full > understanding that someone at some time will make a > humourous or somehow unacceptable remark. They don't > care. I suggest that you not loose sleep over it. > I'm still trying to find out if this pic went > through > photoshop DE. Not that there would be anything wrong > with that since it's still part of a creative > process > now moving rapidly in the PS direction. > Javier > > --- Henry Ting <henryting10@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > That is certainly a beautiful photograph. However, > > inappropriate some of the comments here deem the > > "technical and artistic" aspects of it as > > "titi-erotical" is doing you and the model a > > disfavor. > > While the picture is very nicely done, but posting > > it > > on a global forum inevitably will draw the > comments > > that follow. While the person behind the camera > > should > > be justifiably proud of the creation of such a > > picture, the model might feel otherwise as a > result > > of > > the feedback comments. You did warn the model > > beforehand, or at least got a consentment before > > posting her picture ..... right ? > > > > --- kyle cassidy <kcassidy@asc.upenn.edu> wrote: > > > >Well said Photo Phreak ... on a subject that is > > > >"taboo"... to a point that a woman's beauty, is > > > >becoming politically incorrect to comment on. > > > > > > there's nothing wrong with commenting on a woman > > (or > > > anyone's) physical > > > attractiveness. it is the derisiveness of some > of > > > these comments which > > > bothers me. when you say "wow, nice tits doll" > you > > > are not commenting on > > > someone's beauty, you're deriding them. > > > > > > while i'm certainly guilty of objectification of > > my > > > subjects -- and i don't > > > think that's necessarily wrong -- i do respect > > them. > > > they're human beings, > > > they're my friends, and they've trusted me. it's > a > > > betrayal of that trust if > > > they then become the victims of oafish > commentary. > > > like the photographs or > > > dislike them, but realize what risks models take > > > when they put themselves in > > > front of our cameras, especially when we ask > them > > to > > > take off their clothes > > > first; they're making themselves vulnerable > > because > > > they trust us to make > > > something beautiful or meaningful -- as > > > photographers and (hopefully) > > > artists we are influencing how people around us > > > think and how they behave. > > > this is an awesome responsibility. i hope that i > > do > > > justice to my subjects > > > when i represent them. there are enough girls > out > > > there every day getting > > > run over by the modeling industry, who get > talked > > > into doing things they > > > don't really want to do by unscrupulous people, > i > > > don't want to contribute > > > to that. > > > > > > and please remember, this mailing list isn't ted > > and > > > b.d. and me and marc > > > and whoever sitting on your back porch drinking > > beer > > > at 1:00 in the morning > > > at a hunting lodge in the remote wilderness of > > > wyoming, it's a worldwide > > > forum with thousands of people listening and a > > > searchable archive. whatever > > > you think you may be saying to just a few other > > > people is going into the > > > mailboxes of many. > > > > > > i may not be serious about much, but i'm serious > > > about how photographers > > > treat their models. and if i've taken someone > who > > > trusted me with the image > > > of their own self worth and opened them up to > > > mockery, i've failed in that > > > contract and i need to go back to photographing > > > bugs. > > > > > > i would suggest that when commenting on > someone's > > > physical appearance, even > > > when you think you are complementing them, (and > by > > > this i mean the royal > > > "you," meaning "all of us") imagine someone else > > is > > > saying it about your > > > wife or daughter before you commit it to the > > public > > > record. because that's > > > who we're talking about -- we're talking about > the > > > way that we, as artists, > > > are conditioning the world to look at all women. > > > > > > i happen to think that's a beautiful shot -- and > > > were i to see colleen, i'd > > > say "hey, you look great." > > > > > > just my .02 > > > > > > kc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see > > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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