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Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures...sharpen/
From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 14:12:35 -0800
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Thank you, Sonny.  I appreciate the additional info -- will certainly
look into this, too.

Ted in Olalla

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures...sharpen/


> Instead of Photoshop LE, I would highly recommend the current product,
> Photoshop Elements.
>
> It is available in a free trial version here: (url may wrap)
> http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/main.html
>
> I use Photoshop 6, but I've tried Elements, and it offers most of what
you
> might need for posting pics.  The things it leaves out are largely
pre-press
> tools.  And it has a few nice tools that are not available in the
> high-priced spread, like  "back-light" compensation.  (woo-woo!)
>
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures...sharpen/
>
>
> > Ted,
> >
> > Yes, the book is correct in saying you only need to scan at 80 for
> computer
> > monitor resolution but I've found that my results are better if I
scan
> high
> > (150-300 dpi) then downsample in Photoshop.
> >
> > The reason this gives better image quality is because there is more
> > information coming in on the scan...300 dpi of info vs. 80 dpi. I do
all
> my
> > fixing up to the image then downsize it to 75.
> >
> > If you don't have any image editing software then I'd keep doing as
you
> are
> > and scan at 80.
> >
> > I don't know how deep you want to get into all this digital fun but
you
> > might keep your eyes out for a copy of Photoshop LE which is a great
> program
> > with many of the features of the full Photoshop at a fraction of the
cost.
> I
> > have several friends who use it and it meets all their scanning, web
and
> > digital photo needs.
> >
> > Keep at it and have fun......
> > Lea
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 2:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures...sharpen/
> >
> >
> > :
> > : Hi Lea, et al:
> > :
> > : Thanks for the suggestions.  I guess I will have to wait for a
while to
> > : get into the PhotoShop league - I am using an HP Scanjet 5100C
which is
> > : a flat bed with dedicated and very limited software.  What else
would
> > : you expect from a 71 year old retired country-cousin who's just
now
> > : going into his second childhood?  ;-)  But I do what to learn to
take
> > : good, interesting photos and also how to use the equipment I have,
so
> > : your help is very much appreciated.
> > :
> > : You have all inspired me to read the help file (don't all
Americans
> > : follow the edict, "if all else fails, read the instruction
manual?) and
> > : to my amazement there was a note on turning on and off the
automatic
> > : sharpening -- well, mine was turned off.
> > :
> > : I also have a question for you.  I have been scanning photos for
display
> > : on the Net at 150 dpi.  My manual says I can use a setting of
about 80
> > : dpi for photos that will be viewed on a computer monitor.  Is that
> > : setting high enough to do the photos justice, or should I go
higher?  If
> > : so, how high?
> > :
> > : Now, back to the manual.  I will rescan and replace those photos
post
> > : haste.
> > :
> > : Thanks a lot, folks!
> > :
> > : Ted in Olalla
> > :
> > : ----- Original Message -----
> > : From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
> > : To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > : Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:52 AM
> > : Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures...sharpen
> > :
> > :
> > : > If you're using most versions of Photoshop go to
> > : > Filters>Sharpen>Unsharp Mask
> > : >
> > : > a dialog box will appear
> > : >
> > : > Try an
> > : > amount of 100
> > : > a radius of .5
> > : > and a threshold of 0.
> > : >
> > : > You will be able to see the difference in the preview box within
the
> > : dialog
> > : > box.
> > : > To see the difference befor sharpening and after, place the
cursor
> > : (hand) in
> > : > the preview window and click.
> > : >
> > : > That will get you started.............then you can play around
and see
> > : > different effects.
> > : > Lea
> > : >
> > : > ----- Original Message -----
> > : > From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
> > : > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > : > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 11:30 AM
> > : > Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures
> > : >
> > : >
> > : > :
> > : > : Hi Simon:
> > : > :
> > : > : You and Allen  both mentioned the need for sharpening.  I am
using
> > : an M3
> > : > : with a 50mm DR Summicron f/2.  The prints are tack sharp --
problem
> > : is
> > : > : with the scanner (me) and the scanning.  I don't have much
> > : experience
> > : > : and haven't figured out how to sharpen them yet.  I'll replace
them
> > : when
> > : > : I do.
> > : > :
> > : > : Thanks for your comments.
> > : > :
> > : > : Ted in Olalla
> > : > :
> > : > : ----- Original Message -----
> > : > : From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> > : > : To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > : > : Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:51 AM
> > : > : Subject: Re: [Leica] Posting First Pictures
> > : > :
> > : > :
> > : > : > Ted
> > : > : >
> > : > : > All the images look a little soft.  What scanner did you
use?
> > : They
> > : > : could
> > : > : > perhaps do with a touch of sharpening to offset the
softening
> > : caused
> > : > : by your
> > : > : > scanner.
> > : > : >
> > : > : > I hope the weather dries up for you though ;-)
> > : > : >
> > : > : > Simon
> > : > : >
> > : > : > ----- Original Message -----
> > : > : > From: "Ted Bayer" <tedbayer@harbornet.com>
> > : > : > To: "LUG" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > : > : > Sent: 26 January 2002 08:09
> > : > : > Subject: [Leica] Posting First Pictures
> > : > : >
> > : > : >
> > : > : > >
> > : > : > > I have posted my first pictures - have had less then 30
minutes
> > : > : without
> > : > : > > heavy rain since the camera arrived yesterday.
> > : > : > >
> > : > : > > http://www.leica-gallery.net/tedbayer/index.html
> > : > : > >
> > : > : > > Your comments and suggestions will be much appreciated.
> > : > : >
> > : > : >
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