[Leica] Curious M10 startup time issue

[Nathan Wajsman]

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Nathan Wajsman
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> On 17 May 2016, at 22:27, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> 
> Frank, I don't want to get into bitty-details, but "the computer" can, and
> by default, does a quick format where the contents are not zeroed out.
> Likewise, there is no requirements that a in-camera format to not to do a
> low level format. It's all depending on the firmware. FAT/ex-FAT specs are
> specs, either they adhere to it, or not. Then there are wearing level
> optimizations on the card firmware vs. in-camera. Any way, it's kind of
> like magic, but let's not make it into voodoo ;-)
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> There is a common mistake here.....
>> 
>> First of all, the Camera format is very different than a card format....
>> The following is a simplified tutorial so we get stuff clear.
>> 
>> During a LOW LEVEL in-the-computer format, the card is completely
>> formatted, including the files and the file directory.... it IS now empty.
>> Blank.  NADA.  Like new.
>> During in-the-Camera format, the basic File Directory is modified.  Old
>> entries are deleted, and therefore, the card "looks" blank to the OS.  The
>> Image Files are still there, but the directions to the file locations have
>> been wiped clean so the camera ( or computer) can not locate them. A set of
>> directories is put on the card so the camera can write or read to it...
>> they really are directory ( or Folder, whichever language you speak)
>> locations with camera known names, nothing more.
>> 
>> The Correct Computer based formatting for a SDHC ( or really any) card is
>> FAT32 ( up to and including 32GB) or exFAT( for 64GB or more)......  NOT
>> NTFS..  NTFS is what your computer (Windows or MAC OS-whatever) wants to do
>> when you ask it to format anything.  To be clear, NTFS is the WRONG format
>> for these cards..
>> See this:
>> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/312/~/formatting-a-memory-card,-flash-drive-or-device-using-a-pc
>> 
>> Here is the location of the SD Association freebie card formatter....
>> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
>> Download and run it on your card in the computer.
>> After you do that, THEN you MUST format in the camera.....remember, this
>> is a DIFFERENT type of formatting..... and does different things....
>> 
>> If your card starts acting funny, you should go to the computer,. Download
>> any images you can using whatever methods or programs you want. THEN do an
>> in-the-computer format.  This may make the card useable again.....
>> 
>> If the card is formatted by the computer WRONG, strange results WILL
>> happen.
>> 
>> Comment... if you have performed a format by way of your camera, you can
>> recover the lost images.  If you have formatted the card in the computer,
>> you are SOL.  Your images are lost.
>> 
>> Will any of this "fix" the M10 slow startup time?  I don’t know, but it is
>> a quick experiment that might just work.....
>> 
>> Frank Filippone
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>> 
>> No offense, but it is my understanding that you should NEVER format camera
>> cards in a computer.  Always format them in the camera you plan to shoot
>> them in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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