[Leica] Curious M10 startup time issue

[Sonny Carter]

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On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> As I said, sacrifice the goat.
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> > On 17 May 2016, at 22:27, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
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> > Frank, I don't want to get into bitty-details, but "the computer" can,
> and
> > by default, does a quick format where the contents are not zeroed out.
> > Likewise, there is no requirements that a in-camera format to not to do a
> > low level format. It's all depending on the firmware. FAT/ex-FAT specs
> are
> > specs, either they adhere to it, or not. Then there are wearing level
> > optimizations on the card firmware vs. in-camera. Any way, it's kind of
> > like magic, but let's not make it into voodoo ;-)
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> > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
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> >> There is a common mistake here.....
> >>
> >> First of all, the Camera format is very different than a card format....
> >> The following is a simplified tutorial so we get stuff clear.
> >>
> >> During a LOW LEVEL in-the-computer format, the card is completely
> >> formatted, including the files and the file directory.... it IS now
> empty.
> >> Blank.  NADA.  Like new.
> >> During in-the-Camera format, the basic File Directory is modified.  Old
> >> entries are deleted, and therefore, the card "looks" blank to the OS.
> The
> >> Image Files are still there, but the directions to the file locations
> have
> >> been wiped clean so the camera ( or computer) can not locate them. A
> set of
> >> directories is put on the card so the camera can write or read to it...
> >> they really are directory ( or Folder, whichever language you speak)
> >> locations with camera known names, nothing more.
> >>
> >> The Correct Computer based formatting for a SDHC ( or really any) card
> is
> >> FAT32 ( up to and including 32GB) or exFAT( for 64GB or more)......  NOT
> >> NTFS..  NTFS is what your computer (Windows or MAC OS-whatever) wants
> to do
> >> when you ask it to format anything.  To be clear, NTFS is the WRONG
> format
> >> for these cards..
> >> See this:
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> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/312/~/formatting-a-memory-card,-flash-drive-or-device-using-a-pc
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> >> Here is the location of the SD Association freebie card formatter....
> >> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
> >> Download and run it on your card in the computer.
> >> After you do that, THEN you MUST format in the camera.....remember, this
> >> is a DIFFERENT type of formatting..... and does different things....
> >>
> >> If your card starts acting funny, you should go to the computer,.
> Download
> >> any images you can using whatever methods or programs you want. THEN do
> an
> >> in-the-computer format.  This may make the card useable again.....
> >>
> >> If the card is formatted by the computer WRONG, strange results WILL
> >> happen.
> >>
> >> Comment... if you have performed a format by way of your camera, you can
> >> recover the lost images.  If you have formatted the card in the
> computer,
> >> you are SOL.  Your images are lost.
> >>
> >> Will any of this "fix" the M10 slow startup time?  I don’t know, but it
> is
> >> a quick experiment that might just work.....
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> Red735i at verizon.net
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> >> No offense, but it is my understanding that you should NEVER format
> camera
> >> cards in a computer.  Always format them in the camera you plan to shoot
> >> them in.
> >>
> >>
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