[Leica] Curious M10 startup time issue

[Richard Man]

Frank, I don't want to get into bitty-details, but "the computer" can, and
by default, does a quick format where the contents are not zeroed out.
Likewise, there is no requirements that a in-camera format to not to do a
low level format. It's all depending on the firmware. FAT/ex-FAT specs are
specs, either they adhere to it, or not. Then there are wearing level
optimizations on the card firmware vs. in-camera. Any way, it's kind of
like magic, but let's not make it into voodoo ;-)

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:02 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
wrote:

> There is a common mistake here.....
>
> First of all, the Camera format is very different than a card format....
> The following is a simplified tutorial so we get stuff clear.
>
> During a LOW LEVEL in-the-computer format, the card is completely
> formatted, including the files and the file directory.... it IS now empty.
> Blank.  NADA.  Like new.
> During in-the-Camera format, the basic File Directory is modified.  Old
> entries are deleted, and therefore, the card "looks" blank to the OS.  The
> Image Files are still there, but the directions to the file locations have
> been wiped clean so the camera ( or computer) can not locate them. A set of
> directories is put on the card so the camera can write or read to it...
> they really are directory ( or Folder, whichever language you speak)
> locations with camera known names, nothing more.
>
> The Correct Computer based formatting for a SDHC ( or really any) card is
> FAT32 ( up to and including 32GB) or exFAT( for 64GB or more)......  NOT
> NTFS..  NTFS is what your computer (Windows or MAC OS-whatever) wants to do
> when you ask it to format anything.  To be clear, NTFS is the WRONG format
> for these cards..
> See this:
> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/312/~/formatting-a-memory-card,-flash-drive-or-device-using-a-pc
>
> Here is the location of the SD Association freebie card formatter....
> https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/
> Download and run it on your card in the computer.
> After you do that, THEN you MUST format in the camera.....remember, this
> is a DIFFERENT type of formatting..... and does different things....
>
> If your card starts acting funny, you should go to the computer,. Download
> any images you can using whatever methods or programs you want. THEN do an
> in-the-computer format.  This may make the card useable again.....
>
> If the card is formatted by the computer WRONG, strange results WILL
> happen.
>
> Comment... if you have performed a format by way of your camera, you can
> recover the lost images.  If you have formatted the card in the computer,
> you are SOL.  Your images are lost.
>
> Will any of this "fix" the M10 slow startup time?  I don’t know, but it is
> a quick experiment that might just work.....
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
> No offense, but it is my understanding that you should NEVER format camera
> cards in a computer.  Always format them in the camera you plan to shoot
> them in.
>
>
>
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