Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/05/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Exactly! Thank you, Keith. Tina On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:35 PM, Keith Wessel <keith at wesselphoto.com> wrote: > Someone (perhaps from this list) posted the following article on FB. I > think it furthers our understanding of Tina?s point. > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/world/asia/nobuyoshi- > araki-photographer-model.html > > This article also assists us understand. It is not so much the nudity, or > whether or not we like the art, it has something to do with power over the > subject. > > https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/13/opinion/contributors/salma- > hayek-harvey-weinstein.html > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Tina Manley via LUG > Sent: Monday, May 7, 2018 1:19 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Cc: Tina Manley > Subject: Re: [Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA. > > Thanks, Ted. I know you never photographed nudes! Irene had something to > do with that, I'm sure ;-) Tom knows my opinion of pornographic photos but > even he jokes sometimes that I could make more money doing "erotic" photos > and has volunteered to recruit models. (NO!! He knows his life would be > in danger!) > > As the only regular female contributor to the LUG, I feel a responsibility > to stand up against the trend on OTHER sites (not the LUG) of taking > advantage of young girls by "dirty old men" with cameras. I skip such > sites and block them whenever I can but that doesn't help the young girls > who are being taken advantage of. Speaking up for them might help them to > realize that their bodies are their own and to be valued instead of > merchandized. > > This is a site on FB that I have blocked. It's premise and statement have > nothing at all to do with the photos that are posted. > https://www.facebook.com/groups/spbph/ > > This is the kind of salacious photography I am talking about. > > Most of the nude photography that has been posted on the LUG falls into the > "art" category and I appreciate that. It's wonderful for a family to visit > an art gallery and admire beautiful depictions of the human body. It's not > fine for a family to look over Uncle Randy's shoulder as he peruses > pornographic websites. That's the difference for this LUG family member. > > Thanks, Brian. > > Tina > > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > wrote: > > > Hi Tina, > > I agree with you absolutely! I many many years ago tried to shoot a nude > or > > two! But I was always freaked out about doing them that I'd get in real > > trouble with my wife Irene. On top of that "my art photos" were about as > > interesting as a pile of bricks! > > Actually I think a pile of bricks would've been more interesting and > > exciting. :-) So I stuck to war, sports and the world over enjoying > myself > > as you know! :-) > > cheers, > > Dr. ted :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf > > Of > > Tina Manley via LUG > > Sent: May-06-18 7:03 PM > > To: lug > > Cc: Tina Manley > > Subject: [Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY > > > > From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> > > Date: Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Need printing paper advice > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > > > I'll claim a "Me, too" here and say that I do not appreciate any nudes > > which appear to take advantage of unwitting females for the sole purpose > of > > exposing their bodies salaciously. Gratuitous nakedness for the purpose > of > > arousal of one sex at the expense of the other, but claiming to be art, > > offends me. > > > > That said, I appreciate nudity as art, but not as pornography. Most of > the > > nude photography I have seen on the internet falls under the category of > > "old, rich man with cameras taking advantage of poor, young girls with no > > clothes who think they will be famous models." On Facebook, the St. > > Petersburg Photographic Society photos are almost entirely in that > > category. I find them very offensive and demeaning to women. > > > > If the nudity is labeled as such, I will view it and make my own > decisions > > as to whether or not to view more by that photographer. I do defend their > > right to post the photos and do not approve of censorship. > > > > Tina > > > > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > > > > > Richard, > > > > > > I have had very good results with the Epson Velvet Fine Art for a matte > > > paper, and Ilford Gold Mono Silk for glossy b&w (no idea why a > particular > > > paper would be better for b&w, but I like it). Another excellent matte > > > paper is Hahnemuhle Torchon or most any of the Hahnemuhle papers for > that > > > matter. The photo ink line on my Epson 3880 failed, so I've been > > > revisiting the matte papers. I'll order a new P800 anyway, but it has > > been > > > an eye-opener after printing only on gloss papers the last several > years. > > > > > > Speaking of nudes, many years ago I joined a local photography club and > > it > > > had a "competition" night. In the spirit of things, I entered a b&w > nude > > > from a class with Cole Weston. I was given one point out of five > because > > > "nudes are not an appropriate subject for a photo club". In > retrospect, > > > they were pretty awful. > > > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0- > 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com tina-manley.artistwebsites.com http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html