[Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY

[tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)]

From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Need printing paper advice
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>


I'll claim a "Me, too" here and say that I do not appreciate any nudes
which appear to take advantage of unwitting females for the sole purpose of
exposing their bodies salaciously.  Gratuitous nakedness for the purpose of
arousal of one sex at the expense of the other, but claiming to be art,
offends me.

That said, I appreciate nudity as art, but not as pornography.  Most of the
nude photography I have seen on the internet falls under the category of
"old, rich man with cameras taking advantage of poor, young girls with no
clothes who think they will be famous models."  On Facebook, the St.
Petersburg Photographic Society photos are almost entirely in that
category.  I find them very offensive and demeaning to women.

If the nudity is labeled as such, I will view it and make my own decisions
as to whether or not to view more by that photographer. I do defend their
right to post the photos and do not approve of censorship.

Tina

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I have had very good results with the Epson Velvet Fine Art for a matte
> paper, and Ilford Gold Mono Silk for glossy b&w (no idea why a particular
> paper would be better for b&w, but I like it).  Another excellent matte
> paper is Hahnemuhle Torchon or most any of the Hahnemuhle papers for that
> matter.  The photo ink line on my Epson 3880 failed, so I've been
> revisiting the matte papers.  I'll order a new P800 anyway, but it has been
> an eye-opener after printing only on gloss papers the last several years.
>
> Speaking of nudes, many years ago I joined a local photography club and it
> had a "competition" night.  In the spirit of things, I entered a b&w nude
> from a class with Cole Weston.  I was given one point out of five because
> "nudes are not an appropriate subject for a photo club".  In retrospect,
> they were pretty awful.
>
> Ken
>
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