[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter)]

I also use settings

One is for street shooting when I set the quieter shutter, shoot higher ISO 
and don;t underexpose by 2/3 stop
another is for my standard shooting settings

ric




> On May 25, 2016, at 12:05 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
> wrote:
> 
> I actually use a user profile on my M8. Why? Like Tina, I only ever shoot 
> RAW. And my normal setting is auto ISO. But sometimes, for example when 
> shooting panoramas, I do not want auto ISO because I want the same 
> exposure settings on all the frames that will be stitched later. So I use 
> one of my user profies for that, as it is faster to press the SET button 
> and choose that user profile than to change the iSO setting.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
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>> On 25 May 2016, at 01:49, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I tried it once, long ago, but it was maddening to me, because it just 
>> added something to undo
>> 
>> from my iPad
>> 
>> Sonny Carter
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never used a user profile.  I always shoot everything raw so no
>>> profile is needed.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> According to Overgaard:
>>>> 
>>>> "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the 
>>>> "
>>>> - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, 
>>>> I
>>>> recommend you don't define any."
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <
>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the 
>>>>> camera
>>>>> only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
>>>>> accidentally using it!
>>>>> Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it 
>>>>> involves
>>>>> several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and 
>>>>> sadly
>>>>> that's not the case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
>>>>> for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO
>>>> setting,
>>>>> the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
>>>>> 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which
>>>> wasn't a
>>>>> problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before
>>>> it
>>>>> said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -'
>>>> (blank).
>>>>> I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted
>>>>> that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe
>>>>> re-set the Bob' profile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
>>>>> default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
>>>>> moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd 
>>>>> been
>>>>> doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
>>>>> button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
>>>>> you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile
>>>> mode'.
>>>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>>>>> Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
>>>>> Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd
>>>> love
>>>>> to know, but am not optimistic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
>>>>> Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I
>>>> didn't
>>>>> understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in
>>>> the
>>>>> manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated 
>>>>> that
>>>>> in
>>>>> snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the 
>>>>> snapshot
>>>>> mode.
>>>>> It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
>>>>> actions, not
>>>>> just pressing a button.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
>>>>> original
>>>>> poster with the answers he needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E
>>>> instructions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance
>>>> of
>>>>>> entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with the mode.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
>>>>> still
>>>>>> have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
>>>>> many
>>>>>> settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous
>>>> and
>>>>>> discreet photography."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list and to the Leica M-E.
>>>>>>> I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
>>>>> says
>>>>>>> it's "impossible to give definite answers."
>>>>>>> Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only
>>>> shoot
>>>>>>> JPEGs?
>>>>>>> Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
>>>>> Snapshot
>>>>>>> Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile
>>>> mode
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes
>>>> or
>>>>> no?
>>>>>>> Anybody know?
>>>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
>>>>> snapshot
>>>>>>> mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
>>>>> many
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> more than a single profile, if that.....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>> Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
>>>>> conclusive
>>>>>>> answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>> of the issue could respond.
>>>>>>> I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
>>>>> like the
>>>>>>> Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
>>>>> easy to
>>>>>>> slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should
>>>> be
>>>>> no
>>>>>>> danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six
>>>> years
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> M9
>>>>>>> ownership ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
>>>>>>> 2) Doubt it
>>>>>>> 3) Never needed it
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
>>>>>>> To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
>>>>> questions
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
>>>>> help.Thanks,Bob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>>>>>>> To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
>>>> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> john
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of bob catchpole via LUG
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>> I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
>>>>> little
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do with as possible!
>>>>>>> 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
>>>>>>> 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>>>> Profile
>>>>>>> mode?
>>>>>>> 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't
>>>> be
>>>>>>> switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
>>>>>>> Thanks,Bob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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