[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)]

According to Overgaard:

 "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the "
- " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, I
recommend you don't define any."

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
wrote:

> It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the camera
> only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
> accidentally using it!
> Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves
> several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and sadly
> that's not the case.
>
> Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
> for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO setting,
> the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
> 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which wasn't a
> problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
>
> However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before it
> said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -' (blank).
> I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted
> that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe
> re-set the Bob' profile.
>
> This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
> default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
> moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been
> doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
> button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
> you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile 
> mode'.
> Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
> Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
>    Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
> can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd love
> to know, but am not optimistic.
>
> By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
> Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I didn't
> understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
> Bob
>
>
>       From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>  To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>  Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
>  Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>
> Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in the
> manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated that
> in
> snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
>
> The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot
> mode.
> It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
> actions, not
> just pressing a button.
>
> Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
> original
> poster with the answers he needed.
>
> Nathan
>
> >
> >    Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >    Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E instructions.
> >
> >    If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance of
> >    entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
> experience
> >    with the mode.)
> >
> >    I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
> still
> >    have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
> >
> >    Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
> many
> >    settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous and
> >    discreet photography."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
> > <lug at leica-users.org>
> >    wrote:
> >
> >    > Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
> the
> >    > list and to the Leica M-E.
> >    > I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
> says
> >    > it's "impossible to give definite answers."
> >    > Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot
> >    > JPEGs?
> >    > Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
> >    >
> >    > Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
> Snapshot
> >    > Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
> >    >
> >    > Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
> >    > can't
> >    > be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes or
> no?
> >    > Anybody know?
> >    > Thanks,Bob
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> >    > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
> >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >    >
> >    > Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
> not
> >    > aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
> snapshot
> >    > mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
> many
> >    > use
> >    > more than a single profile, if that.....
> >    >
> >    > john
> >    >
> >    > -----Original Message-----
> >    >
> >    > John,
> >    > Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
> conclusive
> >    > answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
> >    > experience
> >    > of the issue could respond.
> >    > I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
> like the
> >    > Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
> easy to
> >    > slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
> >    >
> >    > Bob
> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
> >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >    >
> >    > If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should be
> no
> >    > danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six years
> of
> >    > M9
> >    > ownership ;-)
> >    >
> >    > 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
> >    > 2) Doubt it
> >    > 3) Never needed it
> >    >
> >    > john
> >    >
> >    > -----Original Message-----
> >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] 
> > On
> >    > Behalf
> >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
> >    > To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
> >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >    >
> >    > Hi John,
> >    > Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
> and the
> >    > concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
> questions
> >    > have
> >    > been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
> help.Thanks,Bob
> >    >
> >    >
> >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
> >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
> >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >    >
> >    > Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
> >    >
> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
> >    >
> >    > john
> >    >
> >    > -----Original Message-----
> >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] 
> > On
> >    > Behalf
> >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
> >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
> >    > To: lug at leica-users.org
> >    > Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >    >
> >    > Hello list,
> >    > I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
> about
> >    > the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
> little
> >    > to
> >    > do with as possible!
> >    > 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
> >    > 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot Profile
> >    > mode?
> >    > 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't be
> >    > switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
> >    > Thanks,Bob
> >    >
> >    >
> >    >
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