[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

[tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)]

I've never used a user profile.  I always shoot everything raw so no
profile is needed.

Tina

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> According to Overgaard:
>
>  "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the "
> - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, I
> recommend you don't define any."
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> > It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the camera
> > only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever
> > accidentally using it!
> > Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves
> > several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and sadly
> > that's not the case.
> >
> > Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed
> > for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO
> setting,
> > the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the
> > 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which
> wasn't a
> > problem since I was aware of the camera settings.
> >
> > However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before
> it
> > said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -'
> (blank).
> > I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted
> > that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe
> > re-set the Bob' profile.
> >
> > This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By
> > default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that
> > moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been
> > doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter
> > button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!)
> > you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile
> mode'.
> > Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
> > Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
> >    Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
> > can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd
> love
> > to know, but am not optimistic.
> >
> > By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot
> > Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I
> didn't
> > understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >       From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >  To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >  Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
> >  Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in
> the
> > manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated that
> > in
> > snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.
> >
> > The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot
> > mode.
> > It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several
> > actions, not
> > just pressing a button.
> >
> > Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the
> > original
> > poster with the answers he needed.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > >
> > >    Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at 
> > > gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >
> > >    Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E
> instructions.
> > >
> > >    If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance
> of
> > >    entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any
> > experience
> > >    with the mode.)
> > >
> > >    I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may
> > still
> > >    have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
> > >
> > >    Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as
> > many
> > >    settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous
> and
> > >    discreet photography."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >    On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
> > > <lug at leica-users.org>
> > >    wrote:
> > >
> > >    > Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to
> > the
> > >    > list and to the Leica M-E.
> > >    > I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now
> > says
> > >    > it's "impossible to give definite answers."
> > >    > Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only
> shoot
> > >    > JPEGs?
> > >    > Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
> > >    >
> > >    > Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the
> > Snapshot
> > >    > Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
> > >    >
> > >    > Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile
> mode
> > >    > can't
> > >    > be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes
> or
> > no?
> > >    > Anybody know?
> > >    > Thanks,Bob
> > >    >
> > >    >
> > >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> > >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users 
> > > Group <
> > >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> > >    > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
> > >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> > >    >
> > >    > Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently,
> > not
> > >    > aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into
> > snapshot
> > >    > mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt
> > many
> > >    > use
> > >    > more than a single profile, if that.....
> > >    >
> > >    > john
> > >    >
> > >    > -----Original Message-----
> > >    >
> > >    > John,
> > >    > Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer
> > conclusive
> > >    > answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
> > >    > experience
> > >    > of the issue could respond.
> > >    > I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature
> > like the
> > >    > Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems
> > easy to
> > >    > slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
> > >    >
> > >    > Bob
> > >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> > >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users 
> > > Group <
> > >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> > >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
> > >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> > >    >
> > >    > If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should
> be
> > no
> > >    > danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six
> years
> > of
> > >    > M9
> > >    > ownership ;-)
> > >    >
> > >    > 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
> > >    > 2) Doubt it
> > >    > 3) Never needed it
> > >    >
> > >    > john
> > >    >
> > >    > -----Original Message-----
> > >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
> On
> > >    > Behalf
> > >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
> > >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
> > >    > To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
> > >    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> > >    >
> > >    > Hi John,
> > >    > Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused
> > and the
> > >    > concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3
> > questions
> > >    > have
> > >    > been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to
> > help.Thanks,Bob
> > >    >
> > >    >
> > >    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
> > >    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users 
> > > Group <
> > >    > lug at leica-users.org>
> > >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
> > >    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> > >    >
> > >    > Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
> > >    >
> >
> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
> > >    >
> > >    > john
> > >    >
> > >    > -----Original Message-----
> > >    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org]
> On
> > >    > Behalf
> > >    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
> > >    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
> > >    > To: lug at leica-users.org
> > >    > Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
> > >    >
> > >    > Hello list,
> > >    > I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are
> > about
> > >    > the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as
> > little
> > >    > to
> > >    > do with as possible!
> > >    > 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
> > >    > 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
> Profile
> > >    > mode?
> > >    > 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't
> be
> > >    > switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
> > >    > Thanks,Bob
> > >    >
> > >    >
> > >    >
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> > >
> > >
> > >    --
> > >    Regards,
> > >
> > >    Sonny
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> > >    Natchitoches, Louisiana
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