[Leica] No more Zeiss Ikon

[hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)]

Jim the Zeiss Ikon of course is a Cosina product. The M9 sensor (and now
Max for the M) are unique due to the particular requirements to make M
lenses work correctly on a 24x36 sensor.

I think it just does not make economic sense for any other manufacturer to
compete directly in that tiny niche.
I think that Dr Kaufmann recently quoted that Leica Camera has doubled heir
market share.... all the way to 0.2% now!

Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 12 December 2012 06:55, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:

> That's the point, exactly: it's almost 2013.  FF M digital technology is
> now several years old (otherwise known as several lifetimes in computer
> chip development).  Why ZI can't use 2009 sensor and processing technology
> to make a camera at a drastically lower price point than the folks in
> Solms is beyond me.
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
>
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> Of
> Geoff Hopkinson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Leica] No more Zeiss Ikon
>
> Frank I think that Jim was wishing for a new digital M at a lower price
> point.
> Recheck your quoted dates on that M8 though ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
>
>
> On 12 December 2012 06:31, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > A realistic expectation....
> >
> > M8, Introduced in Sept 2008 at $4800.  In Sept 2012 is worth less than
> > $2K ( worse than 50% in 4 years)
> > M9 Introduced in  Sept 2009 at $7000.  In Sept 2012 is worth $4K.  ( a
> > bit better than 50% in 3 years) M-E Introduced in Sept 2012 at $5400.
> >
> > Using the algorithm suggested above......
> >
> > Worth about 50% in 2 years???????
> >
> > I don't think the move financially from Film to Digital was so hard for
> me.
> > I saved on film costs.  Broke even quickly.
> >
> > But the second digital camera is a harder rationalization.... I am
> > already saving the money.
> >
> > Why would I buy another?  ( assuming my present digiM is still working
> > to
> > spec)
> >
> > (actually I bought a new M8 then a used M9, for the bigger
> > sensor.....so I have passed that rationalization already)
> >
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> > In 2 years,a used M-E could be about $3K!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, jshulman at judgecrater.com <
> > jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Now the real question--when does it become the full frame 18mp
> > > digital m camera for $3k?
> >
> >
> >
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