Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/11

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Subject: [Leica] No more Zeiss Ikon
From: jshulman at judgecrater.com (Jim Shulman)
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:55:22 -0500
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That's the point, exactly: it's almost 2013.  FF M digital technology is
now several years old (otherwise known as several lifetimes in computer
chip development).  Why ZI can't use 2009 sensor and processing technology
to make a camera at a drastically lower price point than the folks in
Solms is beyond me.

Best,
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Geoff Hopkinson
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:50 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] No more Zeiss Ikon

Frank I think that Jim was wishing for a new digital M at a lower price
point.
Recheck your quoted dates on that M8 though ;-)

Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 12 December 2012 06:31, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:

> A realistic expectation....
>
> M8, Introduced in Sept 2008 at $4800.  In Sept 2012 is worth less than
> $2K ( worse than 50% in 4 years)
> M9 Introduced in  Sept 2009 at $7000.  In Sept 2012 is worth $4K.  ( a
> bit better than 50% in 3 years) M-E Introduced in Sept 2012 at $5400.
>
> Using the algorithm suggested above......
>
> Worth about 50% in 2 years???????
>
> I don't think the move financially from Film to Digital was so hard for
me.
> I saved on film costs.  Broke even quickly.
>
> But the second digital camera is a harder rationalization.... I am
> already saving the money.
>
> Why would I buy another?  ( assuming my present digiM is still working
> to
> spec)
>
> (actually I bought a new M8 then a used M9, for the bigger
> sensor.....so I have passed that rationalization already)
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> In 2 years,a used M-E could be about $3K!
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, jshulman at judgecrater.com <
> jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
>
> > Now the real question--when does it become the full frame 18mp
> > digital m camera for $3k?
>
>
>
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