Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]That's the company I used! Again, the quality is quite good, just not as good as Z+Gloss Baryta. I am rather sad about that... On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:57 AM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> wrote: > www.digitalsilver.com > > They do fantastic work - everything from quicky RC prints to custom, toned > if it's what you want, dw mat air-dried prints. I just had a digital image > printed and framed for a former student and friend's 60th. > Typed with big fingers on tiny keys > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John McMaster" <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> > Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:50:14 > To: 'Leica Users Group'<lug at leica-users.org> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The death of the silver gelatin prints > > I have recently scanned in some 6x6 negs that I still have selenium toned > Oriental Seagull prints of, will compare sometime soon....... > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > I really was hoping that the look would be on par. May be digital negatives > would produce better output than the Durst Theta, but I sort of doubt it > now. > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:26 PM, John McMaster > <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>wrote: > > > Well it has been 15 years since I have had a new silver gelatin print > > :-( > > > > john > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > I meant the death..for me, obviously not for the billion other people > > still printing in the dark room. > > On Jun 19, 2012 11:13 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The real point being the process has not died just becuae somebody > > prefers > > > it over another and its tasteless to have it be a thread name. I > > > feel > > like > > > I'm an idiot contributing to it. > > > > > > - - from my iRabs. > > > Mark Rabiner > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > > > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 02:07:17 -0400 > > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] The death of the silver gelatin prints > > > > > > > > I was an Ilford Multigrade fan not the warm or the cool and I'd > > > > use the > > > RC > > > > for my proof sheets and an occasional work print. I think its > > > > possible > > > they > > > > still make the stuff. I saw a bunch of it at B&H not that many > > > > months > > > ago. > > > > Somebody bought Ilford but the typeface is the same. > > > > > > > > - - from my iRabs. > > > > Mark Rabiner > > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> > > > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > >> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:01:50 +1200 > > > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] The death of the silver gelatin prints > > > >> > > > >> To me there is nothing like the range of papers out there > > > >> compared to > > a > > > few > > > >> years back. I preferred Oriental Seagull over Galerie gloss (I > > > >> liked > > the > > > >> matt), no Agfa warm tone (or cold for that matter) etc etc. > > > >> > > > >> john > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > >> I missed the part on how the silver gelatin prints died. > > > >> > > > >> - - from my iRabs. > > > >> Mark Rabiner > > > >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> Oh, and the gloss is less "annoying." The Z has a gloss > > > >>> optimizer which really helps here, I think. > > > >>> > > > >>> Although I have to say, there is something about that pure black > > > >>> in the silver print that has a lot of appeal. Just slightly more > > > >>> appealing in that case... > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Richard Man > > > >>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Quite a bit sharper (this is from the same file of course), > > > >>>> better noise in the shadow and generally more contrast (macro > > > >>>> and micro ?) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Montie <montoid at earthlink.net> > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Just curious, better how? More gloss, blacker blacks? > > > >>>>> etc. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Montie > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Overblown sensational title? Surely you jest? :-) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Yes, a tad. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Yes, I went for the premium option, even with Selenium toning > > > >>>>> (50% more $). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> It's quite superb, just that Z+ Gloss Baryta is better. I was > > hoping > > > >>>>> they would be equal. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Montie > > > >>>>> <montoid at earthlink.net> > > > wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> It's a Durst Theta 51. Was your image uploaded via Roes for > > > >>>>>> their value RC print? Not Great. Try their custom printing > > > >>>>>> on Ilfobrom Galerie Fiber (Baryta based) Semi Gloss...Superb, > > > >>>>>> assuming the > > file > > > >>>>>> is good in the first place. 300 dpi or better etc. Your > > > >>>>>> subject title may be a tad overblown? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Montie > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Folks might remember that I tried doing digital negative > before. > > > >>>>>>>> In > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>> end, unsuccessfully because my HP Z3100 is just not good for > > > >>>>>> that particular type of task (digital negative for silver > > > >>>>>> contact > > prints > > > >>>>>> - apparently, it works great for digital negatives with > > alternative > > > >>>>> process). > > > >>>>>> Eventually when I have to replace the Z3100, I will probably > > > >>>>>> get > > an > > > >>>>> Epson > > > >>>>>> and try the experiment again. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Meanwhile, since I have to make some 17x22 prints for a > > > >>>>>> couple gallery shows, I got a 8x10 sample print from Digital > > > >>>>>> Silver where you upload > > > >>>>> the > > > >>>>>> digital file and they print it using some sort of LED laser > > > >>>>>> and then processed in wet chemical. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I make the same print on the Z. Comparing to the Z3100 > > > >>>>>> printing on Gloss Baryta, it's no comparison, the inkjet > > > >>>>>> print looks better in > > > >> every way. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So Z+Gloss Baryta it is. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > >>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>