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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: check out Keith Wessel's photographs
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:02:30 +0530
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George,
Silly me - I always thought you guys were easy to govern because you are
culturally and linguistically homogeneous! You do not have 25 different
official languages enshrined in your constitution....

We do not put up with it in a way - in my state, Tamil Nadu, no party has
got two consecutive terms in the state legislature. The politics is very
corrupt, but it is also the best governed state in the country, irrespective
of who is in power. If the delivery of public services is good - health,
education, etc - then I do not think the poor care how corrupt the
politicians are, it does not really affect them directly. India is changing
- in the historically worst managed states in the country, persons who
govern well are slowly getting re-elected, the Supreme Court has started
taking charge of corruption cases away from the hands of the ruling party.
Our democracy is where you were in the early part of the last century, my
guess is it will catch up in the next 25 years or so.

That said, as far as services like health care and education are concerned,
I would much prefer the private sector to take over - it wont be free, but
it will at least be available and function. If we are to take advantage of
the demographic dividend that we possess now, these two sectors are key.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at 
mac.com>wrote:

>
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>
> > That is because, at the core, these things are very simple if you want to
> be
> > prudent.
>
> Jayanand I respect your intelligence, your historical and financial
> knowledge.
> However to say that governing a country with the cultural diversity
> and history of the US of A is, "at the core ?very simple." sounds just
> plain silly.
>
> While I live in Wisconsin and currently feel the effects of one state
> government
> I'm very well aware that these extreme measures are being hammered down
> upon other states along with the same agenda on a national level.
>
> > At least in Democracies, we get a chance to throw the bums out - if the
> > majority of citizens voting deem it fit to do so. If we do not like the
> end
> > result, tough luck, that is how elections work!
>
> In exceptional times and places we choose not to wait for election cycles.
> We don't want to clean up the severe damage that will be done by these
> irresponsible individuals.
>
> You keep asking why we haven't done anything about the banksters.
> This is the time and place. We're up; awake; dealing with it; as best we
> can.
>
> > I am afraid, coming from India, I have total distaste for Government
> > bureaucracies and employees - they are by and large inefficient, lazy,
> > corrupt and open to all types of political patronage, and we could well
> do
> > without them as they do not provide the services they are supposed to
> > provide for us anyway.
> > Of course there are exceptions that work very well -
> > the postal services and railways to name two that come to mind, but by
> and
> > large they are totally dispensable!
>
> As you keep asking us - why do you put up with it?
> Why did you vote for them?
> And what would you replace them with?
>
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
>
>
>
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