Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/11/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The lens I mean is here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/85mm-f14-ais/D3S_3631-main-600.jpg The AF-D version is considerably worse in performance, mainly because of aberrations introduced by internal focusing. The new AF-S G lens is much better in performance but can't be used on a film Nikon older than the F100. If you have an R camera the 80 Summilux is great. Marty On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > I shot with my 85 f2 ai today on my D700. > It was like an old friend that's the best thing about my all of a sudden > going full frame. It looks just like a 50mm 1.4 but with an added quarter > inch you cant see. They think you're getting everything but you're getting > just them. > I also have a 1.8 AF but its twice the size and weight for what? A > billionth > of an f stop and AF? > I don't need no stinking AF. > I am AF. > And the 1.4 is ast least twice the size of the 1.8 for what? > 77mm filters that's nuts! > > I was about to say I'd take the Leica 1.4 anyday and get a Leitax for it > but > then I saw a picture of the nikon right here > http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/85mm-f14/85-14-KEN_7461-950.jpg > Click on it to make bigger. > It may be more gorgeous then the Summilux. > So I'm less convinced. > The smart money is the Leica glass in the inside better. And design. > > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > mark at rabinergroup.com > Cars: ? http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > >> From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:03:29 -0600 (CST) >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)') >> >> Marty, > > The Nikon 85/1.4 is a nice lens, and the F3 is also a very good body. >> However I sold the 85 years ago and the F3 just sits and collects dust, >> well I >> do keep it dusted off and exercise the shutter occasionally. ?I prefer >> the R8 >> to it any day, now if I can just find a really nice 80/1.4R lens for a >> reasonable price. ?;-) > > Cheers > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marty >> Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com> > To: "Leica Users Group" >> <lug at leica-users.org> > Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:13:12 PM GMT -06:00 >> US/Canada Central > Subject: Re: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? >> (R content)') > > The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is >> less > impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element > starts >> to show and there is noticeable curvature of field. ?This was > the motivation >> for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses > to 0.75 m and gets you >> a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend > if you'd like a very modern >> rendering lens for portraits. > > The 80 R-Summilux is a very nice older design, >> but for less money you > can get a Nikkor 85/1.4 and an F3 and the photos will >> be > indistiguishable, except possibly unless you have a bunch of other > Leica R >> glass and shoot in colour and are not willing to manipulate to > match the >> colours. It would also mean that you may have to carry a > bunch of extra gear >> (which is also heavy >> gear). > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html > > >> I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I > like the >> F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a > bunch of other Nikon >> SLR lenses. > > Marty > > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Rabiner >> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> Big difference though between an old Leitz >> Canada Summicron 90 for the R >> system and a brand new razor sharp cutting >> edge >> LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-R 90 mm f/2 ASPH whose specs outdo the 100 macro >> which >> was spec king for a few decades. We should be specific as to what we >> are >> talking about. >> I'd be shooting with it. >> And I am now as I have it >> for the M and I think is the same lens expect it >> has an M on it with an M >> mount. >> There is nothing "slow" about an 90mm f2 lens. Especially when >> shooting >> digitally. >> Leica seems to me which is why I like it to be a >> company which gets smarter >> as it goes along. When it comes out with a new >> lens its better than what >> comes before. Usually by a long shot. As >> everything they've learned about >> optics during that time gets put into that >> lens. The old classic designs are >> great as long as I get my basics covered >> first. And my basics are the >> current offerings from Leica. Their most recent >> designs. And I don't mind >> getting their ears. Tip of their nose even. >> Glasses. More than just their >> eyelashes. >> >> >> -------------------- >> Mark >> William Rabiner >> Photography >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >> >> mark at rabinergroup.com >> Cars: ? http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb >> >> >> >> >>> From: >> Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group >> <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:00 -0400 >>> To: Leica >> Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I >> being stupid? (R content)') >>> >>> In my talk of Leica R stuff, I completely >> forgot about the 80 Summilux. ?Any >>> comments on this lens compared to the 90 >> Summicron? ?What's a good price for >>> the 80? >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users >> Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users >> Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >