[Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)]

Marty,

The Nikon 85/1.4 is a nice lens, and the F3 is also a very good body.  
However I sold the 85 years ago and the F3 just sits and collects dust, well 
I do keep it dusted off and exercise the shutter occasionally.  I prefer the 
R8 to it any day, now if I can just find a really nice 80/1.4R lens for a 
reasonable price.  ;-)

Cheers
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:13:12 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')

The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is less
impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element
starts to show and there is noticeable curvature of field.  This was
the motivation for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses
to 0.75 m and gets you a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend
if you'd like a very modern rendering lens for portraits.

The 80 R-Summilux is a very nice older design, but for less money you
can get a Nikkor 85/1.4 and an F3 and the photos will be
indistiguishable, except possibly unless you have a bunch of other
Leica R glass and shoot in colour and are not willing to manipulate to
match the colours. It would also mean that you may have to carry a
bunch of extra gear (which is also heavy gear).

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html

I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I
like the F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a
bunch of other Nikon SLR lenses.

Marty


On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> Big difference though between an old Leitz Canada Summicron 90 for the R
> system and a brand new razor sharp cutting edge
> LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-R 90 mm f/2 ASPH whose specs outdo the 100 macro which
> was spec king for a few decades. We should be specific as to what we are
> talking about.
> I'd be shooting with it.
> And I am now as I have it for the M and I think is the same lens expect it
> has an M on it with an M mount.
> There is nothing "slow" about an 90mm f2 lens. Especially when shooting
> digitally.
> Leica seems to me which is why I like it to be a company which gets smarter
> as it goes along. When it comes out with a new lens its better than what
> comes before. Usually by a long shot. As everything they've learned about
> optics during that time gets put into that lens. The old classic designs 
> are
> great as long as I get my basics covered first. And my basics are the
> current offerings from Leica. Their most recent designs. And I don't mind
> getting their ears. Tip of their nose even. Glasses. More than just their
> eyelashes.
>
>
> --------------------
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> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> mark at rabinergroup.com
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>
>
>
>
>> From: Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:00 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
>>
>> In my talk of Leica R stuff, I completely forgot about the 80 Summilux. 
>> ?Any
>> comments on this lens compared to the 90 Summicron? ?What's a good price 
>> for
>> the 80?
>>
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