[Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

I shot with my 85 f2 ai today on my D700.
It was like an old friend that's the best thing about my all of a sudden
going full frame. It looks just like a 50mm 1.4 but with an added quarter
inch you cant see. They think you're getting everything but you're getting
just them.
I also have a 1.8 AF but its twice the size and weight for what? A billionth
of an f stop and AF?
I don't need no stinking AF.
I am AF.
And the 1.4 is ast least twice the size of the 1.8 for what?
77mm filters that's nuts!

I was about to say I'd take the Leica 1.4 anyday and get a Leitax for it but
then I saw a picture of the nikon right here
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/85mm-f14/85-14-KEN_7461-950.jpg
Click on it to make bigger.
It may be more gorgeous then the Summilux.
So I'm less convinced.
The smart money is the Leica glass in the inside better. And design.


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> From: Gene duprey <grduprey at mchsi.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 17:03:29 -0600 (CST)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid? (R content)')
> 
> Marty,

The Nikon 85/1.4 is a nice lens, and the F3 is also a very good body.
> However I sold the 85 years ago and the F3 just sits and collects dust, 
> well I
> do keep it dusted off and exercise the shutter occasionally.  I prefer the 
> R8
> to it any day, now if I can just find a really nice 80/1.4R lens for a
> reasonable price.  ;-)

Cheers
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marty
> Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com>
To: "Leica Users Group"
> <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 6:13:12 PM GMT -06:00
> US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I being stupid?
> (R content)')

The 90 APO is very impressive, but at portrait distances it is
> less
impressive than further away - the absence of a floating element
starts
> to show and there is noticeable curvature of field.  This was
the motivation
> for the design used in the 75 Summicron, which focuses
to 0.75 m and gets you
> a tighter crop, and is the M lens I'd recommend
if you'd like a very modern
> rendering lens for portraits.

The 80 R-Summilux is a very nice older design,
> but for less money you
can get a Nikkor 85/1.4 and an F3 and the photos will
> be
indistiguishable, except possibly unless you have a bunch of other
Leica R
> glass and shoot in colour and are not willing to manipulate to
match the
> colours. It would also mean that you may have to carry a
bunch of extra gear
> (which is also heavy
> gear).

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Rachel/File0846.jpg.html


> I kept the Nikkor but returned the test sample 80 Summilux because I
like the
> F3 better than any of the R cameras and I already have a
bunch of other Nikon
> SLR lenses.

Marty


On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Rabiner
> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> Big difference though between an old Leitz
> Canada Summicron 90 for the R
> system and a brand new razor sharp cutting
> edge
> LEICA APO-SUMMICRON-R 90 mm f/2 ASPH whose specs outdo the 100 macro
> which
> was spec king for a few decades. We should be specific as to what we
> are
> talking about.
> I'd be shooting with it.
> And I am now as I have it
> for the M and I think is the same lens expect it
> has an M on it with an M
> mount.
> There is nothing "slow" about an 90mm f2 lens. Especially when
> shooting
> digitally.
> Leica seems to me which is why I like it to be a
> company which gets smarter
> as it goes along. When it comes out with a new
> lens its better than what
> comes before. Usually by a long shot. As
> everything they've learned about
> optics during that time gets put into that
> lens. The old classic designs are
> great as long as I get my basics covered
> first. And my basics are the
> current offerings from Leica. Their most recent
> designs. And I don't mind
> getting their ears. Tip of their nose even.
> Glasses. More than just their
> eyelashes.
>
>
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> William Rabiner
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>
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>
>
>
>
>> From:
> Tim Gray <tgray at 125px.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group
> <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:09:00 -0400
>> To: Leica
> Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] 80 Summilux R (was 'Am I
> being stupid? (R content)')
>>
>> In my talk of Leica R stuff, I completely
> forgot about the 80 Summilux. ?Any
>> comments on this lens compared to the 90
> Summicron? ?What's a good price for
>> the 80?
>>
>>
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