Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I witnessed the spectacle of my of my grad school profs beating to death a raccoon that got loose in the lab. He gave the animal about six hard blows to the head using the handle of some large tin snips as the bludgeon. It took about 6 blows on the top f the skull, each of which produced an immediate hematoma. It was neither swift nor humane. I was appalled at how long the animal was alive and conscious during this. Horrifying, even for a 24-year-old male. Jeffery On Apr 4, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Vince Passaro wrote: > Is this some kind of horrifying April Fool's thing or are you just totally > insane? It's not even that easy to kill a trout never mind a sizable > (possibly large even) mammal that you love. There is for most people at > the > level of competence in such matters as decency predicts no such thing as > one > swift blow with a shovel. Jesus Mary and Joseph. In the absence of that > 'one > swift blow' bullshit I leave it to your imagination the adrenaline-infused > rapid heart-rate scene that ensues. One recovers oneself from that > experience how, exactly? Not easily and not in short order I'll say that. > And one does this to save money on a shot? > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote: > >> While trying not to be grotesque and overly upsetting to pet lovers, the >> harsh reality of life and death is you have to be pragmatic when a pet is >> distressed and nearing the end of life. Most vets pile on the drugs, hope >> for a peaceful end, or else administer an injection which - while >> compassionate and a sop to the mores of modern society - costs unnecessary >> money. Better to go for a swift certainty and take a final stand behind >> your sick pet. Swiftly strike it with a shovel or other heavy implement >> which will put it out of its pain. It doesn't expect it from you, and any >> pain is brief. Horrific I know, but at least its end is quick and certain, >> and any suffering is short. I'd want such a finish myself - as long as I >> don't realise it's going to happen... >> >> Your opinion might vary. >> >> Douglas >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lorenzo" < >> gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group LUG" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 2:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Deer and Goose >> >> >> >> >>> I was shocked at how much cost of pet hospitalization had gone up in the >>> last decade here. In the end it was irrelavant as the gold in the world >>> can't make a difference if you have a hopeless/terminal case. >>> >>> Between the horrific heartache and financial cost no more pets for me >>> without pet health insurance coverage. >>> >>> Greg Lorenzo >>> Calgary, Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I only spent $2,000 before the 5 year old shih tzu died. That was for 1 >>>> day of care. My vet (ex-vet) was not particularly interested in the >>>> cause of >>>> death. She knows that the dogs are like our children and we are willing >>>> to >>>> pay a great deal of money to save their life, but once the pooch has >>>> died, >>>> the vet bills freeze as did her concern outside of the cost of disposal. >>>> >>>> Jeffery >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Greg Lorenzo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jeffery Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I think that these are still poorly understood diseases. I recall >>>>>> reading that "dogs cannot get mad cow disease". As a result, cattle >>>>>> dying >>>>>> from it are candidates for dog food. I gave one of my dogs some dog >>>>>> treats >>>>>> imported from the country that uses tainted beef in its dog food, and >>>>>> my dog >>>>>> died of some sort of encephalopathy within the year. And that dog >>>>>> treat >>>>>> brand disappeared from the shelves of stores for about 6 months. >>>>>> >>>>>> My father was a hospital administrator during the early 1980's. When >>>>>> AIDS became an entity, early conventional wisdom was that it was >>>>>> caused by >>>>>> an immune reaction to sperm entering the bloodstream via traumatic >>>>>> intercourse. Then it was a virus that could not be transmitted by >>>>>> blood >>>>>> transfusion. These diseases with slow incubation periods lead to some >>>>>> pretty >>>>>> erroneous assumptions. And science has a tendency to call something >>>>>> "right" >>>>>> when we are really saying "right, until proven wrong", and that >>>>>> happens >>>>>> regularly. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We lost our 9 YOA Bichon last May to acute renal failure. $10,000 in >>>>> vet >>>>> bills later we are still wondering what the H*ll caused this. >>>>> >>>>> His food, to my knowledge, was not made by Menu Foods of Toronto which >>>>> was found to have used tainted wheat gluten from China in their dog >>>>> food >>>>> brands in 2007. That error cost several people theirs pets with all the >>>>> heartbreak that goes along with the death of a family pet. >>>>> >>>>> Greg Lorenzo >>>>> Calgary, Canada >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. 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