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Subject: [Leica] widest lens used?
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:11:43 -0500
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It's entire possible that the Sonnar simply isn't a good performer wide 
open. If I use it as a street lens (during the day), the softness at 1.5 
would not be a problem, but with a couple of Summiluxes available at that 
aperture, I tend to just leave the Sonnar behind.

Jeffery


On Apr 5, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Lluis Ripoll Querol wrote:

> Hi Jeffery,
> 
> I've followed your comments about focus shift, I think my lens don't show 
> such problem, well it is not a very good perfomer at 1.5. What I'm very 
> surprised too is what you tell about your Sonnar Russian copy, I suppose 
> you are talking about the Jupiter 3, I've saw this lens on e-bay between  
> 80 to 150$, I've never decided for it because I already have the Sonnar 
> and on the other hand I've always heard that it is no easy find a good 
> Russian lens, maybe you should buy 2 or 3 to be sure to have a good one. I 
> didn't know this Bessa Contax, it looks as a lovely camera.
> 
> Maybe you already know this link:
> http://www.zeisscamera.com/first.shtml
> 
> Cheers
> Lluis
> 
> 
> El 03/04/2010, a las 3:11, Jeffery Smith escribi?:
> 
>> I have an aluminum or some God-awful alloy Russian-made 50/1.5 Sonnar 
>> that focuses better than the Zeiss M lens, as does the Contax C lens on 
>> my Contax. In retrospect, it would have been wiser (by about $750) for me 
>> to buy Stephen Gandy's Bessa Contax mount camera body and put the old 
>> Zeiss lens on it. The Zeiss site says that they 50/1.5 improves at 5.6 
>> and smaller. Is there any lens that doesn't look pretty good at 5.6 and 
>> smaller? I've got a great 50/3.5 Heliar for that. I do like the OOF 
>> aspects of the Sonnar. That said, it seems to be an outdoor lens.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Greg Lorenzo wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> hopsternew at gmail.com writes in part:
>>> 
>>>> The Sonnar was interesting. This sample appeared very well made like 
>>>> all of
>>>> this series that I have handled or owneed. Of course Zeiss themselves 
>>>> say
>>>> that it is meant to be a reproduction of a classic design, it does focus
>>>> shift and it has its own distinct character.
>>> 
>>> I tried out a Zeiss ZM 50/1.5 for a few days after finding I quite liked 
>>> my Soviet made copy with my M film cameras. The new Zeiss lens being of 
>>> better build quality then the Soviet lens. To my surprise I found the 
>>> Zeiss lens to be soft/soft/soft to about f4. Nothing coming out in sharp 
>>> focus. Thinking my eyes were the problem I put the Soviet lens on for a 
>>> few shots on the next roll and problem solved I had sharp focus from 
>>> f1.5 to 4.
>>> 
>>> Didn't buy the Zeiss lens and now I have two Soviet 50/1.5 lens as I 
>>> found one NIB which was made in 1963 (reportedly a good year for these 
>>> lenses).
>>> 
>>> Greg Lorenzo
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