Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]steve, tell that to the western world ................ and those who live in hope. it all relates to man's demand for possession. food need is excepted. b. On 7-mei-2009, at 19:03, Steve Barbour wrote: > > On May 7, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Chris Saganich wrote: > >> Correct although I never to meant to imply I thought this is >> static, one achieves new perspective through interaction in the >> world and then subsequently must reinterpret what they think. >> Having an open or positive mindset allows this but many people >> have fixed mindsets and are not open to new perspectives. They >> are static. > > > yes, > > so the problem is not what's available, it's peoples' desire/ > ability to access it. > > Steve > > >> >> At 10:36 AM 5/7/2009, you wrote: >> >>> On May 7, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Chris Saganich wrote: >>> >>>> Reading and watching is a state. The interpretation of what you >>>> read and watch is the action. A person can read and watch >>>> everything that exists and will only interpret within their >>>> perspective. How can an interpretation be made outside your >>>> perspective? I believe therefore one would be hard-pressed to come >>>> up with an example of a person making an interpretation outside >>>> what >>>> they already think. >>> >>> at the core I agree with you Chris, but things are not static... if >>> one is open to learning, >>> >>> once that is accomplished, a person may be capable of new >>> interpretations... >>> >>> so one has to be open to learning, and find productive avenues to >>> accomplish that.... >>> >>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Or do you do what most people do, only read/watch what fits >>>>> in with what they already think? I really feel sorry for you! >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Slobodan Dimitrov >>>>> <s.dimitrov at charter.net> wrote: >>>>> > I'm in the middle of reading Human Smoke, Nicholson Baker, 2008. >>>>> It's a >>>>> > history of the interwar period, up to 1941, using news articles, >>>>> diary >>>>> > entries, etc., from a pacifist's point of view. >>>>> > It's grim reading, and an indelible commentary on journalism, >>>>> without >>>>> > "choosing sides". >>>>> > The BBC strikes me as being virtually within the same mold as >>>>> Radio Free >>>>> > America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Moscow, Vatican Radio, etc. >>>>> Meaning it is >>>>> > a "point of view" form of broadcasting, with government funding. >>>>> > S.d. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On May 6, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Philippe AMARD wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Slobodan Dimitrov wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Outside of the former Soviet environment, British >>>>> journalism is >>>>> one of >>>>> >>> the most censored on the planet. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> BBC included? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I must listen to Bejing radio immediately >>>>> >> Ph >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Then again, on the academic level, anyone learning journalism >>>>> in the US, >>>>> >>> at the multiplicity of Annenberg School(s) for Communication, >>>>> is taught >>>>> >>> self censorship. A predictable mind provides a safe product. >>>>> >>> S.d. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On May 6, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Tina Manley wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> At 08:41 AM 5/6/2009, you wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark said: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And why would you felt like you needed to oblige them? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Because they refuse access unless you agree to their terms. >>>>> That's >>>>> >>>> true of more and more organizations. All of the photos >>>>> taken >>>>> on National >>>>> >>>> Trust property in England have been removed from Alamy >>>>> because the Trust >>>>> >>>> refuses to allow photographers use photos taken on their >>>>> grounds. Usually >>>>> >>>> it's because the organization wants to make money themselves >>>>> by leasing the >>>>> >>>> photos - like many museums don't allow photography so they >>>>> can sell slides >>>>> >>>> and prints in the gift shop. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The exact same thing...When the subjects lay out ground >>>>> rules >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>> access or want to review images before publication it's >>>>> time >>>>> to walk away. >>>>> >>>>> Walt >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> I agree but there are more and more things we're having to >>>>> walk away >>>>> >>>> from these days. British photographers are protesting the >>>>> National Trust >>>>> >>>> stand but I doubt they'll be able to change anything. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Tina >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Tina Manley >>>>> >>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > Leica Users Group. >>>>> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>> >>>> Chris Saganich MS, CPH >>>> Senior Physicist, Office of Health Physics >>>> Weill Medical College of Cornell University >>>> New York Presbyterian Hospital >>>> chs2018 at med.cornell.edu >>>> http://intranet.med.cornell.edu/research/health_phys/ >>>> Ph. 212.746.6964 >>>> Fax. 212.746.4800 >>>> Office A-0049 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> Chris Saganich MS, CPH >> Senior Physicist, Office of Health Physics >> Weill Medical College of Cornell University >> New York Presbyterian Hospital >> chs2018 at med.cornell.edu >> http://intranet.med.cornell.edu/research/health_phys/ >> Ph. 212.746.6964 >> Fax. 212.746.4800 >> Office A-0049 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information