Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I, too, wish them well, but I agree with Steve - its an uncertain but gutsy move. I can understand ditching the R system, but not developing new products for their M system boggles the imagination! Lets see what transpires. Cheers Jayanand On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc at cox.net> wrote: > > On May 7, 2009, at 5:51 AM, leo wesson wrote: > >> I'm kinda worried about the success of the S2. ?It's a hard sell to get >> someone to totally buy into a new system at that dollar level. >> I hope it works as advertised. ?I can tell you that if it has little >> hickies >> (like, opps funny colors unless you add this $200 dollar filter that isn't >> available when the camera was released) it will be dead in the water. >> ?Pros >> don't mind spending ?$ on equipment ?(either purchased or rented) but the >> equipment has to work as advertised and they have to trust it so that >> their >> client has no surprises. >> It's a totally different shooter that they will be dealing with. > > Leica has ventured into real deep water here, opting to develop a brand new > camera system, leaving their established products, > both M ?and R in limbo... > > I think we all know this...a huge gamble...and not making their established > core very happy...while they jump off into the great unknown. > > Sometimes it's best to complete one project, rather than starting multiple > projects, no matter how good they sound. > > If nothing else, it's a message to possible S2 system buyers, that they too > could become similarly stranded. > > In any case, for those that may first buy the S2 system, it will possibly > say more about their financial circumstances, than their photographic > ability or good sense. > > I hope it works, though that remains to be seen. If not, ?it may be the end > of the Leica company. > > Steve > > > >> >> Leo Wesson >> Photographer/Videographer >> 817.733.9157 >> www.leowesson.com >> >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Geoff Hopkinson >> <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Mark, I worry about the S2 success too, but I have no pro market >>> knowledge >>> at all. >>> That is what Leica has committed to, you have to accept the reality >>> unless >>> you have a few million spare Euro to contribute. >>> >>> No new 24x36 digital M anytime soon. Wishing won't make it so ;-) >>> But you can get into the digital M market right now and just use all of >>> the >>> 19 other current models if you want. >>> Or of course there must be some of the other few million produced still >>> floating around! >>> Obviously there's nothing comparable to the 3 new very fast designs from >>> the >>> other makers. >>> >>> Never mind, we shall have to continue to agree to disagree on the >>> significance of the 1.33 crop factor for the M8. >>> (but ask the other LUG members that shoot their great glass on their M8's >>> if you want) >>> I'll try to bite my tongue next time ;-) >>> >>> >>> 2009/5/7 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> >>>> Geoff I don't object to fast cutting edge lenses I love them but >>>> shooting >>>> through just the middle of them does not justify the size, weight and >>>> especially the cost. We've been through this before maybe we're saying >>>> it >>>> better this time. >>>> >>>> I can't see how Leica is going to do well competing against Fujiblad a >>>> camera which is mainly rented by pros by the day with a guy running a >>>> big >>>> monitor and the software which goes with it. >>>> Not bought. >>>> Rented. >>>> Borrowed. >>>> That awesome amount of money behind the R&D on the S system could surely >>>> have put us in business with the Leica glass we shot film with in the >>> >>> 90's. >>>> >>>> Leica might be making an S outa themselves my pappy would have >>>> said................................ >>> >>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers >>>> Geoff >>>> 'Life's not B&W, except at both ends' >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/ >>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >