Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/05/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Nathan and Slobodan, if you're referring to my remark on the BBC, I consider it one of the most reliable and most independent sources the world over - my opinion of course. And I read BBC news daily, while listening to/watching some of its reports. The thread was just that British journalists were censored - maybe the British government would like it to be, but are they achieving this, I doubt it. (also look at its statutes and how it is organised and monitored) Beijing radio was just a reference to other countries where the media are not so free. The initial assertion was so definitive ... Of course I would take any news from Russian agencies with the utmost care. And any piece of news should be scrutinized keeping in mind that it is the result of a concurrence of so many stakes; political, financial, moral, topical, etc. biases and opportunities. This in any country, with any source of news. Free Radio Europe I've never listened to so I can't tell if any bias was its major signature / imprint. But I remember listening to the radio for the American forces in Europe; it was bullshit indeed, poor GIs, they would have deserved a better treatment when away from home. - my opinion again, of course, not necessarily shared, even by them. Amiti?s Philippe Nathan Wajsman wrote: > Then I don't think you listen to it very much. > > BBC's point of view is of course British, but certainly not that of > the British government. > > As for Radio Free Europe--some of my earliest childhood memories from > Communist Poland involve sitting around the table with my parents in > the evening and listening to Free Europe. It may have been American > propaganda but I can assure you that in those pre-Internet days, it > was the only way for people on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain to > find out what was going on in their own countries. > > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On May 6, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote: > >> I'm in the middle of reading Human Smoke, Nicholson Baker, 2008. >> It's a history of the interwar period, up to 1941, using news >> articles, diary entries, etc., from a pacifist's point of view. >> It's grim reading, and an indelible commentary on journalism, >> without "choosing sides". >> The BBC strikes me as being virtually within the same mold as Radio >> Free America, Radio Free Europe, Radio Moscow, Vatican Radio, etc. >> Meaning it is a "point of view" form of broadcasting, with >> government funding. >> S.d. >> >> >> On May 6, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Philippe AMARD wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Slobodan Dimitrov wrote: >>> >>>> Outside of the former Soviet environment, British journalism is >>>> one of the most censored on the planet. >>> >>> >>> BBC included? >>> >>> I must listen to Bejing radio immediately >>> Ph >>> >>> >>>> Then again, on the academic level, anyone learning journalism in >>>> the US, at the multiplicity of Annenberg School(s) for >>>> Communication, is taught self censorship. A predictable mind >>>> provides a safe product. >>>> S.d. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 6, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Tina Manley wrote: >>>> >>>>> At 08:41 AM 5/6/2009, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mark said: >>>>>> >>>>>> And why would you felt like you needed to oblige them? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Because they refuse access unless you agree to their terms. >>>>> That's true of more and more organizations. All of the photos >>>>> taken on National Trust property in England have been removed >>>>> from Alamy because the Trust refuses to allow photographers use >>>>> photos taken on their grounds. Usually it's because the >>>>> organization wants to make money themselves by leasing the >>>>> photos - like many museums don't allow photography so they can >>>>> sell slides and prints in the gift shop. >>>>> >>>>>> The exact same thing...When the subjects lay out ground rules >>>>>> for access or want to review images before publication it's >>>>>> time to walk away. >>>>>> Walt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree but there are more and more things we're having to walk >>>>> away from these days. British photographers are protesting the >>>>> National Trust stand but I doubt they'll be able to change anything. >>>>> >>>>> Tina >>>>> >>>>> Tina Manley >>>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >