Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/05/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]In Barcelona we have Wildlife for all the preferences ?. Lluis > El 13 maig 2020, a les 13:38, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va > escriure: > > Parks, and Parks :-) > > Barcelons is known to have wild-boars around. > https://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/bombers/en/noticia/watch-out-for-wild-boars_360417 > > Closing the gates prevents them from investing the nearly deserted places > and spreading hepatitis through the community on top of COVID19, mostly to > the kids playing in these parks. > > That might another of the reasons why. But who am I to guess ? > > Amities > > Philippe, semi-confined and surrounded by wild-boars, cf infra :-) > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Metz/DJI_0220.jpg.html?g2_fromNavId=xe8847acf > > > > >> Le 12 mai 2020 ? 22:54, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit >> : >> >> HI, Phillipe. My comments about US parks was more to reinforce the >> stupidity of some government officials. My daughter had reservations for >> a >> camping spot in a Washington State park. Reservations mean you don't get >> in the park without one. Limited number of folks in the huge park. Yet >> her reservation was cancelled, the park rangers couldn't cruise around the >> park ensuring that the rules were followed? What the F&%k are the state >> employees doing with nobody allowed in the park. Moving the conversation >> to Spain, once the stay in your home orders had been modified so different >> age groups could go outside at different times with restrictions the >> gendarmes could not keep a watch on the park to ensure that the rules were >> followed? If we are going to have limited stay at home restrictions then >> ensuring the sanity of the public is of great importance to all involved. >> Letting people within reason enjoy a park helps to keep the populations >> sanity: if the population can't follow the rules then you close the park >> or >> whatever public space is in question with the explanation that some could >> not keep the rest of the citizens safe. >> >> The various countries of course are free to set whatever policies that >> make >> sense for them. Scenario 1 is that we have various forms of lockdowns >> until 50% or more of the population is vaccinated whenever a vaccine is >> created. Managing the sanity of the citizens will be a careful balancing >> of limited freedoms carefully managed so that exposure to the virus is as >> low as possible. In this scenario government finances are stretched to >> the >> limit as there is no income coming in. Some organizations close forever >> as >> resources evaporate(workforce that choose not to be locked up, commitments >> for inputs that go to who can actually purchase the inputs and lock up >> said >> resources). >> >> Scenario 2 is to start to open up your society as much as possible >> watching >> hospital resources carefully: the goal is to get as many people with >> antibodies as possible without overloading the medical resources >> available. Here you will shut things down progressively if your medical >> resources begin to overload. In this scenario deaths may increase >> dramatically if wrong calls are made. >> >> Scenario 3 is the German model that allowed companies to remain open with >> strict monitoring of worker conditions to limit the spread of the virus. >> Social distancing is strongly enforced. This is a middle path with >> possibly a middle mortality rate but incomes to the government are less >> affected. >> >> Scenario 4 is large testing with police enforcement of quarantine as >> people >> are found to be infected. This only works in small population countries >> with a strong social bond that trusts/obey authority. It also only works >> when the infection is just starting and the infected are a relatively >> small >> number. This would never work in Paris or NYC currently as too many are >> infected to trace the infections. >> >> Scenario 5 is the Swedish model. Essentially a variation on the German >> model with more choice by the citizens. Currently a higher mortality rate >> than the nearest neighbors but maybe smarter if a vaccine is not developed >> in 6-18 months. >> >> In the US we are essentially trying 1 and 2 simultaneously. States like >> Georgia, Florida, Texas, Colorado, S. Dakota are working on #2. NY, >> Washington State, Michigan, Pennsylvania appear to be trying #1. The next >> few weeks will be enlightening. >> >> >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:43 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >> wrote: >> >>> A tragedy yes. >>> >>> Now, the rest of your reasonings is open to questions. Different places, >>> cultures, etc. Lluis's downtown parc is not a National Park in the US, >>> etc. >>> >>> Same virus though. Lethal for humans. >>> >>> And all the more so if you drink bleach instead of cerve?a ... >>> >>> >>> Amities >>> >>> Philippe >>> >>> >>> >>>> Le 12 mai 2020 ? 21:33, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a >>>> ?crit : >>>> >>>> That is a tragedy. Sunlight and fresh air kill the virus. People just >>>> need to keep their distance and/or wear a mask. Several of our states >>> have >>>> closed their state parks for fear that people won't follow the rules. >>>> If >>>> someone won't follow the rules in 10,000 hectares of forest they won't >>>> follow them walking down the street. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG < >>> lug at leica-users.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A Parc in confinement?. >>>>> < >>>>> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Abstracts/20200512_L1020708.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Leica Monochrom (CCCD), Noctilux F1.0 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome >>>>> >>>>> Saludos cordiales >>>>> Lluis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Don >>>> don.dory at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Don >> don.dory at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information