Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2020/02/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On my recent trip to South Georgia, there were six Olympus users, four Nikon Z7 users, a single Lumix user, a single Fuji user and a single Sony user out of 70 photographers, including the leaders, on board. The rest were all Canikon DSLR users. No inferences intended, just a statement of fact. I was actually surprised they were not more mirrorless users around. Cheers Jayanand On Sat, 15 Feb, 2020, 07:27 Sonny Carter via LUG, <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > If they are using Sony, they're using mirrorless pretty much. I don't see > any of the older ones in my very touristy town when we have crowds. > > > Regards, > > Sonny > http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/> > Natchitoches, Louisiana > 1714 > Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase > > USA > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:44 PM Aram Langhans via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org > > > wrote: > > > Everybody keeps saying that mirrorless is booming, but in my outings in > > the > > National Parks and Forest, I do not see them. I see tons of the crop > > sensor > > Nikons, a few less Canons (that surprises me), and every so often a Sony > > or > > even less often an Olympus. I see more film cameras with each outing. > > So, > > while sales figures may say one thing, people who are more landscape > > photographers are not walking around with many mirrorless cameras...... > > YET!! > > > > Aram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Rabiner > > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:11 AM > > To: Leica Users Group > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon et al vs MIrrorless cameras > > > > This implies sales on the Z6, Z7 and Z50 camera have been slow in sales > > and > > I'm pretty sure that has not been the case at all I think it's been a > boom > > for Nikon on all levels. I was in the market for a Nikon body last > > January > > and the new and first out Nikon mirrorless Z6, Z7 were just out and were > > getting a ton of exposure. An innovated forward looking light hearted > > person > > would have gone that route. Not me like you were saying Nikon is a day > one > > with mirrorless and the last thing I'm going to do is invest some big > > change > > into a first out. Turns out I was wrong these cameras worked out > perfectly > > and paved the way for the recent release the DX cropped format Z50 which > > would really save my on Tylenol and Aleve bills. (this is not a product > > endorsement) > > I still say avoid first outs. And the D50 is not a first out. And its > > cheap > > and lightweight and compact as all get out. And that tiny feather weight > > zoom lens it often comes with is a near pancake could do me fine for > years. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark William Rabiner > > Photographer > > > > ?On 2/14/20, 12:45 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG" > > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of > > lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > > > > Peter and Howard have been having a debate on Nikon ( specifically) > > Z6 > > camera progress to replacing all DSLR with Mirrorless models. > > > > A different perspective.... > > First the interchange..... > > The loan program shows how desperate Nikon is to convince Nikon users > > to > > move from DSLRs to the EVF models. The latter are competent, as you > > can > > see, > > but I am not sure that they will be as versatile as the old mirror > > prisms > > on the DSLRs - especially for the flying bird photography that I do > > > > Now the perspective.... > > The first Nikon camera to be digital was the D1 in 1999. 20 years > ago. > > They have done a wonderful job of improving and refining the > camera(s) > > since then. The first Nikon mirrorless is the Z6/7 introduced in > > 2018. > > It > > is to be understood that the Mirrorless camera has not had the > > development > > time and effort that the DSLR models have. Plus the business > decision > > to > > not develop too quickly and have all your DSLR sales go to zero > > because > > of > > the "better" mirrorless model. ( incentive to NOT change or improve). > > A few years ago I predicted the end of the DSLR domination. That is > > becoming a fact. Manufacturing infrastructure at Nikon is > > predominantly > > mechanically inclined employees. Mirrorless camera require > > significantly > > less mechanical assembly... they are basically computers with some > > mechanical integration. THEY ARE INHERENTLY LESS COSTLY TO PRODUCE. > > The Sony A7 caught Nikon lollygagging around.. and Nikon declared the > > Sony > > technology to be inferior...... never going to work as well.... Never > > going > > to be able to AF as well. Never going .... you fill in the final > > part..... Then came the Sony A9, which made Nikon shut up. The A9 > > was > > created to defy Nikon. Fix all the naysayers comments, especially > the > > Birders and teh Sports guys..... Then came the A9II which further > > strengthened the Mirrorless position..... > > Nikon is in no different position than they were a few years ago.. > > denying > > the obvious superiority of the mirrorless technology because of their > > heavy > > infrastructure investments on mirror-box manufacturing. > > Canon has stated no new DSLR lens development. Guess the word is > > received > > at Canon..... go Mirrorless. > > If you want a bird imaging camera, with the Nikon brand on front, it > is > > coming. As good as the D5 or D500. Better. Just wait a couple more > > years....... maybe sooner..... > > Because you ain't going to see new, high end DSLR development in the > > future. Brand N or C.. Or other. > > > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > BMWRed735i at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information