Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/12/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]If I was invested in a Sony system, I don't think I'd make the jump. Sony is a fine system, though I don't think its lenses are at the same level as Leica SL lenses. However, the SL system natively only goes to 280mm, and that's Doug's "wide" lens. However, its viewfinder is amazing. I thought I was in 7th heaven with SL, but SL2 kicks it up a notch. The same display panel is used in other cameras but the optical system may or may not be the same. The focus peak feature is better than SL, too, with both the native lens or adapted M- and R- lenses. I could have saved a few thousand dollars and get similar quality images with the Panasonic S1R. However, I've found its user interface to be a nightmare, which is also my view of the Sony system. Also, the ease with which I can use legacy lenses is great with the SL2, though I'd suspect that the Panasonic body too would recognize coded M-lenses with a Leica adapter. I also like the fact that the same battery can be used for SL, SL2 and Q2. On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 14:29, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Hi Doug, > I would suggest you rent a Sony A7RIV before you leap back into Leica. I > say this as both cameras are relatively equal in performance with a nod to > the Sony for larger files, better high ISO performance and a smaller body. > Not by much but you have a substantial investment in lenses at this point. > I have adapted a lot of lenses to other bodies and the native mount is > always the best; there is always some loss in the translation. > > Personally, I am waiting for the M11 with the higher count sensor as I have > rediscovered my love for the M's and being able to walk with a widish lens > that crops into a telephoto improves spontaneity and lightens the load on > my shoulder. I fully recognize the burden of high MP files versus the 24 > of an M10 but memory on multiply redundant drives is cheap compared to an > APO Summicron or Noctilux or 21 Summilux. > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:58 PM Douglas Herr via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> > wrote: > > > ARGGGHHH! > > > > I wish I hadn't read this! > > > > Doug Herr > > Birdman of Sacramento > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.org> > > >Sent: Dec 9, 2019 4:19 PM > > >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > >Subject: [Leica] SL2 arrived > > > > > >So, I had been on the fence about getting an SL2. I knew I didn't "need" > > 47 > > >mp. I also thought the Q2 I acquired a few months ago produced > > unbelievably > > >fantastic results when I took it on a trip to Italy a while back, too. > > > > > >Yet, I put myself on a waiting list for an SL2, thinking that it won't > be > > >until some time next year until I receive it, and I thought I would have > > >some time to decide whether I really wanted it or not. > > > > > >Well, it turned out that I got an e-mail last week that I would be > > >receiving one soon. Panicked, I debated whether to cancel the order, but > > >the lapse of judgment let it slip by, and a box arrived a few days > later. > > > > > >I have not shot many pictures with it yet but here are a few things: > > > > > >The image stabilization works incredibly well, with a native SL lens, as > > >well as a coded M lens. It even worked well with a non-ROM R lens, > after I > > >set the lens spec through its touch-screen UI which is extremely > > intuitive, > > >even better than SL. This means I'll take more hand-held pictures with > my > > >collection of M- and R- mount lenses. Stabilization seems to work even > > >better than the Q2. > > > > > >Mounted on a tripod, it captures far more details than I can see with my > > >very own eyes. I have recently printed a landscape taken with a Q2 to > > >16"x24", and immediately ordered the same with 24"x36". Because the Q2 > > >picture had to be cropped a little bit from the original, I wasn't using > > >all the information that was captured. With the excellent 24-90, I can > > >really use every square millimeter of the sensor. The result is > comparable > > >to, dare I say, 4x5. Over the weekend, I took some pictures around the > > >Fitzgerald Marine Reserve in San Mateo County at dusk, and came home > with > > >stunning images, taken with 30-second exposures. > > > > > >With a compact prime lens, I can see it making the Q2 redundant, even if > > Q2 > > >is lighter than the SL2 body alone. However, the Q2 is so invisible, > where > > >the SL/SL2 seem so imposing. I will likely keep the Q2 to take > snapshots, > > >but the SL2 will probably be used more often than the SL was. > > > > > >With my previous Leica and non-Leica cameras, I was aware of their > > >limitations, be it an M3, M6, M8, or a Leicaflex SL2 or even the digital > > >SL. Now, it feels like there are no limits. > > > > > >The only other time I felt the same astonishment was when I tried a > Leica > > >M3 for the first time, after years of Japanese SLRs. Or, the time I > tried > > a > > >Fazioli concert grand after decades of playing Steinways. It just felt > > like > > >the universe just got bigger beyond my ken. > > > > > >Anyone wants to buy an SL, cheap? > > > > > >-- > > >Ken Iisaka > > >first name at last name dot org or com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Leica Users Group. > > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Don > don.dory at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Ken Iisaka first name at last name dot org or com