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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Color Balancing (Blue Trees)
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:50:57 -0500
References: <CA+yJO1DYt-4iVpOtCY6eKYSZpyQOdW2Oqv_e-ncmDs71tP7itA@mail.gmail.com> <005301d5a4cf$1dc47ee0$594d7ca0$@nelonassociates.com> <CA+yJO1Bj0VJvx=j1rZApQb=qOSbSXHhkTzfM1dOJZLdgy4PwRA@mail.gmail.com> <009601d5a531$aaf2b130$00d81390$@nelonassociates.com>

That's true.  We can convert them all to B&W!!

Tina

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 9:48 AM jnelon <jnelon at nelonassociates.com> wrote:

> Tina,
> The unintended consequence of switching to E-6, as I did also, is that the
> dyes have started to shift/disappear, mostly tending toward blue. I've
> pretty much scanned all of my E-6 stuff before this dye-shift can claim
> whatever's left on the slide. I scan everything in raw with Vuescan and
> hope
> I've got all that's possible off the film before there's nothing left. It's
> a scary world of scanning/preserving. What I'd like to know is if there's
> really something left in the raw scan that I can recover/enhance to restore
> the image to its original glory. I haven't found that magic yet.
> Jim
>
> James R. Nelon
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> WNDA Studios
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jnelon=nelonassociates.com at 
> leica-users.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 9:13 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Tina Manley
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMGS: Color Balancing (Blue Trees)
>
> Jim,   I think you are right.  That's about the time that I gave up on
> Kodachrome completely because they turned all of the processing over to
> Qualex who ruined about half of the film I sent them.  Slides would come
> back with horrible stains or cut right through the middle of the frame for
> a whole roll.  I started using E-6 and developing it myself.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tina
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:02 PM jnelon <jnelon at nelonassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tina,
> > I'm so glad you posted your Kodachrome slides. I have been furiously
> > scanning my old slides, especially after I found some of the color
> problems
> > you're showing in your posts. I had thought Kodachrome would live
> forever.
> > Them I used a slide from Beijing that had some of the same
> characteristics
> > that you're experiencing. I was devastated thinking that I had lost a
> large
> > number of the Beijing show slides to this color problem. I haven't been
> > able
> > to figure out whether the dyes shifted, or whether we stored/shipped them
> > improperly and the heat/humidity took their toll. And then I tried to put
> > together a show using Kodachromes from 1992 when I did a WWII 50-year
> > retrospective in Europe. My slides of the Brandenburg gate had the same
> > gun-metal look to them as the one you posted recently. I spent forever
> > trying to add/subtract color or effects, with minimal satisfaction. And
> > then
> > you popped up with the same experience. I'm using a Nikon LS-4000
> CoolScan
> > with Vuescan. I've tried all sorts of settings in Vuescan including ones
> > you've mentioned (infrared/cleaning/etc.), all to limited satisfaction.
> On
> > the other hand, I'm in the midst of scanning some truly old Kodachromes
> > from
> > my wife's grandparents, taken in the early '50's. The colors are
> virtually
> > unchanged, although the slide material itself frequently shows some
> > warping.
> > I'm left with the theory that perhaps Kodak changed some of its
> processing
> > chemistry or procedures during the 1980's-1990's era, as my Greece slides
> > from 1982 are also virtually worthless, from a color perspective.
> > I'm all ears to hear what you and others might think about any of this.
> > Jim
> >
> > James R. Nelon
> > Partner
> > WNDA Studios
> > O: +1.207.389.4676
> > C: +1.508.308.6525
> > Email: JNelon at WNDAStudios.com
> > Website: https://WNDAStudios.com
> > LinkedIn: https://LinkedIn.com/in/JamesNelon
> > Highlight Reel: https://Vimeo.com/252904552
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jnelon=nelonassociates.com at 
> > leica-users.org
> ]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 5:37 PM
> > To: MUGers at yahoogroups.com; lug; paw; seephoto; Olympus Camera
> Discussion
> > Cc: Tina Manley
> > Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Color Balancing (Blue Trees)
> >
> > PESO:
> >
> > I'm scanning 7000 slides from Switzerland, most of them Kodachromes, most
> > from 1989.  One category is 56773 - Switzerland Countryside.  If you have
> > been to Switzerland, you know that the Swiss countryside is beautiful.  I
> > want to get it right.  Here is the original scan, scanned on the Nikon
> > LS5000 with Vuescan set for Kodachrome:
> >
> > https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/170112330
> >
> > It's too dark and the trees are blue.
> >
> > I lightened it and balanced the color based on the white house in the
> > foreground:
> >
> > https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/170112332
> >
> > Everything looks fine except the trees in the distance are blue.  I
> > remember them being blue but maybe I'm wrong.  I subtracted the blue.
> >
> > https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/170112333
> >
> > Now everything looks too green.  I have many, many of these slides to
> > adjust and want to get it right but believable.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > C&C greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Tina
> >
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