Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/10/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Tina, Thanks for using Niem?ller's quote. It reminded me of my exploration of the concentration camps when I put together a 50 year WWII retrospective. My cameras at the time were R-3's with motor drives shooting Kodachrome. I have found over time that the tools I use can be used to represent any storyline I wish to spin. And to spin one's preferred storyline here can dilute the goal of learning about Leica. I teach students in my Rhetoric & Argumentation class to conflate a tool with a compelling position, if they wish to win. For me that's the danger here: to take an inanimate tool (Leica) and conflate it with a political position (photojournalism with an anti-Trump belief.) That position just as easily could be pro- or con-Trump or any other intensely held belief. Thus Leica can become a pawn in the hands of rhetoric. I vote to let the Leica equipment speak for itself without political embellishment. Jim James R. Nelon Partner WNDA Studios O: +1.207.389.4676 C: +1.508.308.6525 Email: JNelon at WNDAStudios.com Website: https://WNDAStudios.com LinkedIn: https://LinkedIn.com/in/JamesNelon Highlight Reel: https://Vimeo.com/252904552 -----Original Message----- From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jnelon=nelonassociates.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:28 PM To: Leica Users Group Cc: Tina Manley Subject: Re: [Leica] yearbook question, but political Leicas have always been used for photojournalism. You cannot avoid politics when you are a photojournalist. Taking sides is a good thing. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out?because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out? because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out?because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me?and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niem?ller TIna On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 7:22 PM jnelon <jnelon at nelonassociates.com> wrote: > Brian, > Whether I'm for or against Trump or anyone else has nothing directly to do > with my use of Leica products to make my pictures. I can recall admonitions > about political discussions on the LUG forum, with the idea to try to stay > on-message with the Red Dot when using this forum. I'm dismayed that the > LUG > may take a turn away from the idea of a forum for Leica-produced images and > directly related topics. That's my vote: let's keep the LUG on its > historical target. > Jim > > James R. Nelon > Partner > WNDA Studios > O: +1.207.389.4676 > C: +1.508.308.6525 > Email: JNelon at WNDAStudios.com > Website: https://WNDAStudios.com > LinkedIn: https://LinkedIn.com/in/JamesNelon > Highlight Reel: https://Vimeo.com/252904552 > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jnelon=nelonassociates.com at > leica-users.org] > On > Behalf Of Brian Reid > Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:27 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: [Leica] yearbook question, but political > > I'm working hard on the announcement of the rules and procedures for the > 2019 LUG Yearbook. > > All previous yearbooks have donated sales revenues to a worthy charity. > I like the idea, but I'm wondering... > > I am sorely tempted to send any proceeds from the sale of this yearbook > to some organization devoted to preventing the re-election of Donald > Trump. If you are offended by that, but don't want to say so in public, > feel free to email me privately at brian at reid.org > > I know that this is a very US-centric activity, but in my opinion he is > a danger to the entire world and not just to the USA. > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Tina Manley www.tinamanley.com http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html> *https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html <https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html>* _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information