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Subject: [Leica] New Leica! : now Proportions.....
From: photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe)
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2019 21:01:39 +0200
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Requires a PhD in math I?m afraid john ;-)

Amities

Metric and remain Philippe



> Le 3 avr. 2019 ? 20:49, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a ?crit :
> 
> The UK had full plate (8.5" x 6.5") as well as half and quarter plates.   
> I usually print a 15" x 10" image on A3 paper, this fits well into a 20" x 
> 16" frame - so mixing two ratios ;-)  If you print on A3+ (~13" x 19") 
> then you get 2:3 with 1/2" borders.
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> I have always wondered about this......
> If you go back in time, and look at negative sizes......
> 35mm = 2:3 ratio.
> Then there is/was .... Square ( never saw square paper), 2 1/4 x 3 1/4, 3 
> 1/4 x 4 1/4  sized cameras.  None of which are 2x3.  Nor 4x5, the apparent 
> standard for traditional paper ( the other is 5x7).
> Tradition has only offered paper in 5x7 or 4x5 sizes.  Never 2x3. ( 
> although with the advent of machine printers, 4x6 was offered)
> 
> Now that we use computer printers to print, the paper is 8 1/2 x 11 or 11 
> x 17.  Europe uses a slightly different size, but still not 2:3.  What 
> camera(s) support this ratio?
> 
> Frames come in any custom size, but the standard ones are 4x5 or 5x7 or 
> 11x14 in proportion.  Notice, no 2x3?
> 
> Purest types ( some) want every scene to be 2x3 ratio.  Cropping is a 4 
> letter word.  
> What scene is 2x3, precisely?
> What output is 2x3?  Paper is not.  Computer Screens (nominal proportions 
> are 16x9 or 4x3 ) are not.
> 
> You must accept the thought that cropping is required, somewhere, 
> sometime, someplace.
> 
> And as Sir Ted would ( paraphrasing) say.... stop worrying and go take 
> pix.......
> 
> Frank Filippone
> 
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> 
> The Q2 will will present an interessting artistic quandry of those who 
> refuse to crop the sacred 3:2 format.
> 
> Will throwing the switch from 28 to 35 or 50 or 75 be a sinful crop, or 
> present a whole new holy rectangle?
> 
> ric
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from red735i at verizon.net (Frank Filippone) ([Leica] New Leica! : now Proportions.....)
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