Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/02/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I don't disagree with John's opinion about images that look over-processed. These images look like that, on LR, the "Clarity" is pushed up way high, "Shadows" lifted high, and the "Highlights" brought down a lot. As a result, the overall dynamic contrast is reduced, while local contrast is increased for the extra "pop." The reduced dynamic contrast gives them more of a "painted" look. I've observed that a lot in real-estate listings, while the interior looks as bright as the outside. Combined with extreme wide-angle lenses, they have the dramatic effect of an otherwise mundane subject. It used to be quite fashionable for newspaper photographers to use an extreme wide angle or tele for that dramatic look, even though the unnatural perspectives distorted the subjects and actually took the eyes away from the subjects. However, they "popped" out of the dull newsprint paper. I am surmising that, in the photography stock market, the images are more akin to a r?sum?. They need to scream out for attention, as the editor is sifting through thousands of images, and the image has to have an immediate impact to be chosen. If the editor wants a more natural look, s/he could request such an image, I'd imagine. However, I cannot conceal my disdain for such over-processed, super-HDR look that has flooded the market. Professional photographers in the business have to follow the trend to stay afloat, but at a more personal level, I strive to create images that recreate the experience of encountering the scene. It may involve some manipulation to bring the images closer to what my eyes saw, but I don't want the Lightroom manipulations to dominate. At the end of the day, it's about the subjects and their stories. The images I prefer are those whose photographic process, all the way from the lens, camera, to the final medium, are transparent to viewers, and bring the viewers to the subjects. On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 15:49, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Prints and stock are totally different markets. I know what I'm doing. > > Tina > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:48 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> > wrote: > > > No, but the prints I sell usually get the reaction that they look natural > > ;-) > > > > john > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On > > Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG > > Sent: 12 February 2019 23:47 > > To: Leica Users Group > > Cc: Tina Manley > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Enhance Details > > > > Do you make your living leasing stock photos?? I do. > > > > Tina > > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:44 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > > Whatever, IMO your images that you show look over-processed... > > > > > > john > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] > > > On > > > Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG > > > Sent: 12 February 2019 21:46 > > > To: Leica Users Group > > > Cc: Tina Manley > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Enhance Details > > > > > > For some images a little detail enhancement makes the difference. I do > > it > > > now with external software programs. It would be great to do it > without > > > leaving LR. Just one more thing that LR makes easier. > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:36 PM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > > > > > You own many thousands of dollars worth of equipment, why do you > think > > > you > > > > need this? Isn't that why we buy Leica.... > > > > > > > > john > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > PESO: > > > > > > > > The Adobe LR upgrade today says that it includes the new Enhance > > Details > > > > feature. I've upgraded and my Windows is up to date; however, when I > > go > > > to > > > > Photo > Enhance Details, a pop up window tells me I need to upgrade > > > Windows > > > > 10 to October 2018 before I can use this feature. > > > > > > > > My Windows is totally up to date. Google searches tell me nothing. > > > > Anybody have a clue?? > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tina Manley > > > > www.tinamanley.com > > > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tina Manley > > > www.tinamanley.com > > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > > > < > > > > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > -- > > Tina Manley > > www.tinamanley.com > > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > > < > > > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > < > http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Ken Iisaka first name at last name dot org or com