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Subject: [Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.
From: tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:18:06 -0400
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It's Facebook ;-)  You will be as safe as you would on any FB page,
including the LUG one, starring Uncle Ted!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1460472557605575/

Tina

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:

> There I was thinking all these perverts - in the camera club of Tina's
> oppobrium - who allegedly get their cheap jollies by eyeballing lubricious
> nudes, were in St. Petersburg, Florida - obviously a home from home for
> pulsating DOMs (that's dirty old men, folks), and, in the spirit of
> unbiased investigation, I clicked on the link provided by Tina in the
> somewhat salaciously altered from "Re: [Leica] Was Need printing paper
> advice" to "ditto, Now NUDITY TINA" with a suitably boggled mind.
>
> I was shocked to discover that the St. Petersburg was not in Florida, but
> was in fact the old Leningrad in the USSR. Yes! That's Russia, and thus
> was, more than likely, part of Putin's trollery programme against the West.
> Of course, the current POTUS may disagree with me, as apparently in his
> eyes, Vlad is great, fantastic, awesome, tremendous, terrific, and a real
> leader, whereas, for me, by clicking on Tina's link, I may have exposed my
> underpants' size to the FSB. My threat of immediate death for broken
> silence to my bespoke underpants tailor is now rendered useless, and I'm
> powerless against the machinations of Putin the Great. I suspect within
> weeks I will be reduced to a squeak as the FSB, by devious computer
> manipulation, alter my accommodation requirements in the underclothing
> department.
>
> I'll blame you, Tina...
>
> Douglas
>
>
>
> On 07/05/2018 19:19, Tina Manley via LUG wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Ted.  I know you never photographed nudes!  Irene had something to
>> do with that, I'm sure ;-)  Tom knows my opinion of pornographic photos
>> but
>> even he jokes sometimes that I could make more money doing "erotic" photos
>> and has volunteered to recruit models.  (NO!!  He knows his life would be
>> in danger!)
>>
>> As the only regular female contributor to the LUG, I feel a responsibility
>> to stand up against the trend on OTHER sites (not the LUG) of taking
>> advantage of young girls by "dirty old men" with cameras.  I skip such
>> sites and block them whenever I can but that doesn't help the young girls
>> who are being taken advantage of.  Speaking up for them might help them to
>> realize that their bodies are their own and to be valued instead of
>> merchandized.
>>
>> This is a site on FB that I have blocked.  It's premise and statement have
>> nothing at all to do with the photos that are posted.
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/spbph/
>>
>> This is the kind of salacious photography I am talking about.
>>
>> Most of the nude photography that has been posted on the LUG falls into
>> the
>> "art" category and I appreciate that.  It's wonderful for a family to
>> visit
>> an art gallery and admire beautiful depictions of the human body.  It's
>> not
>> fine for a family to look over Uncle Randy's shoulder as he peruses
>> pornographic websites.  That's the difference for this LUG family member.
>>
>> Thanks, Brian.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Ted Grant via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tina,
>>> I agree with you absolutely! I many many years ago tried to shoot a nude
>>> or
>>> two! But I was always freaked out about doing them that I'd get in real
>>> trouble with my wife Irene. On top of that "my art photos" were about as
>>> interesting as a pile of bricks!
>>> Actually I think a pile of bricks would've been more interesting and
>>> exciting. :-) So I stuck to war, sports and the world over enjoying
>>> myself
>>> as you know! :-)
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted  :-)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Tina Manley via LUG
>>> Sent: May-06-18 7:03 PM
>>> To: lug
>>> Cc: Tina Manley
>>> Subject: [Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY
>>>
>>> From: Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Need printing paper advice
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll claim a "Me, too" here and say that I do not appreciate any nudes
>>> which appear to take advantage of unwitting females for the sole purpose
>>> of
>>> exposing their bodies salaciously.  Gratuitous nakedness for the purpose
>>> of
>>> arousal of one sex at the expense of the other, but claiming to be art,
>>> offends me.
>>>
>>> That said, I appreciate nudity as art, but not as pornography.  Most of
>>> the
>>> nude photography I have seen on the internet falls under the category of
>>> "old, rich man with cameras taking advantage of poor, young girls with no
>>> clothes who think they will be famous models."  On Facebook, the St.
>>> Petersburg Photographic Society photos are almost entirely in that
>>> category.  I find them very offensive and demeaning to women.
>>>
>>> If the nudity is labeled as such, I will view it and make my own
>>> decisions
>>> as to whether or not to view more by that photographer. I do defend their
>>> right to post the photos and do not approve of censorship.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>> I have had very good results with the Epson Velvet Fine Art for a matte
>>>> paper, and Ilford Gold Mono Silk for glossy b&w (no idea why a
>>>> particular
>>>> paper would be better for b&w, but I like it).  Another excellent matte
>>>> paper is Hahnemuhle Torchon or most any of the Hahnemuhle papers for
>>>> that
>>>> matter.  The photo ink line on my Epson 3880 failed, so I've been
>>>> revisiting the matte papers.  I'll order a new P800 anyway, but it has
>>>>
>>> been
>>>
>>>> an eye-opener after printing only on gloss papers the last several
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of nudes, many years ago I joined a local photography club and
>>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>> had a "competition" night.  In the spirit of things, I entered a b&w
>>>> nude
>>>> from a class with Cole Weston.  I was given one point out of five
>>>> because
>>>> "nudes are not an appropriate subject for a photo club".  In retrospect,
>>>> they were pretty awful.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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-- 
Tina Manley
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In reply to: Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant) ([Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.)
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Message from imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry) ([Leica] Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.)