Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/02/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I get what y?all are saying. I love 1600. But, each of you are talking about practicality. My point was look. What does the image look like based on the film shot? Sure, Tri-X or T-Max 3200 for that matter (I shot a ton of that) fixes a problem we?ve all experienced. The practicality wasn?t my point, though. I like the Plus-X look better than Tri-X. That?s me. I totally understand picking the right tool for the job. Given the choice, though . . . . Frank F. Farmer Jackson, Mississippi > On Feb 23, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > I'm with Ted with 1600 being my favorite film speed as most the stuff I > shot was not with studio or camera lights or tripods but outside hand held. > In the 90's I mainly shot Fuji Neopan 1600 @ 1600 with my Leica's on the > go. That was what was mainly in my tall developing tanks when I developed > film. I ran it in Xtol 1:3 it looked way better than Tri x in D76 1:1 ever > did so it was a bit of a miracle. Iso 1600 and not pushed! > Today it was announced Kodak's Tmax P3200 is back and P stands for push > rhymes with mush it?s a real not chromegic iso 1600 film. It always cost a > ton of money and I never thought it was worth it. And never came in > Brownie size. But it would be great to be able to shoot black and white > iso 1600 again as 400 really feels slow. I'd shoot iso 1600 color neg and > convert it to black and white. > If I ever shoot more film it will be with my Rolleiflex or it will be > sheet film. > > Personally I feel shooting slow films on the street to be kind of like > shooting yourself in the foot and going out for track. Slow as in iso 100. > And that?s medium. Much has been made on the LUG over the years about > getting the best from your Leica glass with high rez slow films but when > your shutter speed is an 8th of a second all you're getting out of your > Leica glass is mush. > It would be great to have a second camera body loaded with slower films > for when its high noon in the Bonneville salt flats and you want depth if > field but on the whole I can pass on it. > F ISO 1600 and be there! > > > > > -- > > Mark William Rabiner > > > ?On 2/23/18, 1:31 AM, "LUG on behalf of Ted Grant via LUG" > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at > leica-users.org> wrote: > > Hi Frank, > I always used the correct film as it made picture taking and quality > perfect prints every time. But then my assignments were all shot by > AVAILIBLE LIGHT!! > Well first of all if you can see it (the subject) you can shoot it! Oh > sure the odd time the ASA was 1600, but who cared! Like I said >>>> "IF > YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECTS IN A "STEEL MILL?" > What the heck at ASA 1600 and LEICA glass wide open it was a piece of > cake! > You see, in my 65 plus years of assignments about the world from birth > to death you had to come home with photos! GOOD ONES and no sick assed > excuses after developing the film? > If the images weren't any good that could very well be your last > assignment for a very well paying client. MY GOOD FORTUNE? "it never > happened!" :-) > My shooting attitude toward gear, film, printing etc? "was always > "KISS!" > "" KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!" KISS :-) > And in all those years from 27 May 1950 when my dearest wife put the > first camera in my hands as a birthday gift until to this day I never had > a client dump me as one of their trusted photographers. Today with the > NATIONAL ARCHIVES of CANADA having a personal collection of 200,000 images > of captured life moments. Plus something like another 100,000 images in > the NATIONAL GALLERY. > I can only offer my success to that sweet little word and the actions > of it. "KISS!" :-) > CHEERS EVERY ONE, > Dr. ted grant O.C. > > tedgrantphoto.com > (have a look) :-) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On > Behalf Of Frank Farmer > Sent: February-21-18 6:46 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] (no subject) > > LOVED Plus-X. Always preferred it to Tri-X. Does that make me some sort > of weirdo? > > Frank F. Farmer > Jackson, Mississippi > >> On Feb 21, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >> >> I shot a ton of 220 Plus X in my studio and sometimes on location with my >> Hasselblads but sometimes twin lens Rolleiflex. >> It was Avedon's film as choice I've learned for black and white. >> For 35mm though I'd use tab grain films for mid speed films.. Delta 100, >> T Max 100. I settled into Neopan Acros 100, >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> Photographer >> >> ?On 2/19/18, 4:28 PM, "LUG on behalf of Alan Magayne-Roshak" >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of amr3 >> at uwmalumni.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>wrote: >> >>> I pulled two B&W images from my archives as a part of a discussion with >>> Jim Shulman about early Kodak Plus-X film.? >>> ... >>> ... >> >>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20070711- >> jaycee+pancake.JPG.html >> >> <http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20070711-jaycee+pancake.JPG.html> >> >>> http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20070712- >> Tullahoma+Jaycees+Pancake+Breakfast+07+54.JPG.html >> >> <http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/20070712-Tullahoma+Jaycees+Pancake+Breakfast+07+54.JPG.html> >> >>> Jim also has a photo of Aunt Jemima at a promotional event that same >>> year. >> >>> Comments and critiques welcomed and appreciated. >> >> -- >>> Jim Nichols >>> Tullahoma, TN USA >> >> ============================================================================================= >> Thanks for showing us. I love looking at old film pictures. >> >> -- >> Alan >> >> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer >> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services >> (Retired) >> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978 >> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014 >> amr3 at uwm.edu >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/ >> >> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate >> for an inability to notice. 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