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The main problem I have with manual focus is that today's DSLR cameras do 
not have  viewfinder that is conducive to manual focus.  No microprisms or 
split image to help, and the screen itself is not good, either.  My eyes are 
aging, but I can still focus fine with the R8 when I take the occasional 
photo with it, so I know it could be done if they had a better viewscreen.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark Rabiner
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:29 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation

I just did a project my first in years and I guess I became less casual 
about my shooting as I turned off the AF for a third of the shots a reason 
being my focus was certainly not in the very center of the shot but way off 
somewhere and I needed to control it fluidly just like the old days of 
manual focus.
I used to say I don?t need auto focus I am  auto focus. But I do love auto 
focus. Though in a way it makes you stupid and makes your shots stupid with 
an emphasis on centering you subject.
And I could get better in shifting the auto focus but you know what? It may 
not be possible are even preferable.
I think for some stuff turn the AF off.  Go with the Force.




-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 1/16/18, 4:06 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jeff Moore" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of 
jbmmllug at jbm.org> wrote:

    On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    > Certainly nailing the focus and looking like shot wide open or close!
    > Great shots!

    Thanks!

    > You?d shot a bunch more than these or are they not edited down that 
much?

    This was from a couple of years ago so I don't remember every last
    detail... but I think the deal was that while I really liked the way
    pictures with these fast manual-focus lenses could look, working with
    them was a bunch slower than nipping in with the autofocus zoom and
    just magically getting the picture.  So people seemed to feel my
    presence and the camera's gaze more when I was fussing with manual
    focus, and it ended up affecting the pictures.  This made me gravitate
    to mostly using the SL autofocus lens.

    I think one issue was that I didn't usually want to compose with the
    most important in-focus thing right on the middle of the frame, so I'd
    move the magnified area over to the part of the picture where the Most
    Important Thing (usually somebody's eyes) was and then focus.  I don't
    think I trusted the full-frame focus peaking display as much as I
    trusted seeing sharp focus at maximum magnification.  But anyway, this
    was fiddlier than just maybe putting the autofocus hotspot in the
    right place before sliding into position then bing! getting the
    picture.

    Of course, just always focusing the middle of the frame can be made to
    work - when using that still-quite-nice Canon 85mm f/1.2, the only way
    I got reliable good focus on a 5D Mk II body was to always focus with
    the middle AF point.  So I just backed up and composed assuming I'd
    crop to the composition I wanted later.  But I never liked throwing
    away that many of the pixels.

    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark William Rabiner
    > Photographer
    >
    > On 1/16/18, 2:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jeff Moore" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of 
jbmmllug at jbm.org> wrote:
    >
    >     On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Mark Rabiner 
<mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
    >     >
    >     > A big emphasis all around on M glass with the SL I can?t recall 
how much I?ve seen this on the LUG.
    >
    >     Yeah, the SL is a fine place to mount your fast M and R glass and 
be
    >     able to focus precisely - and the SL M-lens adapter transmits 
M-lens
    >     6-bit info to the SL (so you get correct EXIF data and the camera 
does
    >     whatever vignetting and color-shift corrections are necessary).
    >
    >     Here's the 50mm Summilux-M ASPH on the SL:
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25684348196/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25615348401/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    >     Here's the 75mm Summicron-M ASPH on the SL:
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25191283904/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    >     Here's the 80mm Summilux-R on the SL:
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25778017651/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    >     Here's the 75mm Summilux-M on the SL:
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25266602713/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25895333845/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    > 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbm0/25262612384/in/album-72157665752167155/
    >
    >     ...but the autofocus of the new SL lenses is fast and accurate.
    >
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