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Subject: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:40:31 +0200
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Merci Philippe,

Pour moi nettet? et piqu?  seraient ? la limite des conceptes similaires?.

?a va mon ami, je respose mais maintenat je vais descendre ? La Rambla et 
prendre quelque photo.

Amiti?s
Lluis




> El 20 ag 2017, a les 18:37, Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> 
> va escriure:
> 
> Lluis,
> 
> Sharpness as it is used in HCB?s quote in English is a very misleading 
> translation of the French word nettet?. 
> The original sentence is about ? nettet? ?, not about ? piqu? ? ?
> 
> Traduttore, traditore 
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traduttore,_traditore
> 
> Repose toi bien.
> 
> Amities
> Phuzzillogix 1er, roi du flou, du b?ret, et de la baguette
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 20 ao?t 2017 ? 18:13, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>> gmail.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> I always read your comments, I?e learned a lot, as always I find all of 
>> them very interesting and clever and in my opinion this one is one of the 
>> most interesting, no for your mention to me that I appreciate very much, 
>> but for the question (s) it content. Can we consider the Art and the 
>> Beauty with universal rules/Laws? No, of course, some years ago I?ve read 
>> a very interesting book about the historical period of ?La Encyclopedie? 
>> / ?La Illustraion? and how a lot of wise men has intended stablish the 
>> standards and the reasons of the beauty, but fortunately the Art has or 
>> shall has no rules, as you know, one of my favorite sentences is from HCB 
>> ?Sharpnes is a bourgeois concept?. Longtime ago I?ve visited an exhibiton 
>> of J.J. Henri Lartigue, really impressive to see what he has do with the 
>> early technology. Maybe we the people we think that photography 
>> reproduces the reality but as Susan Sontag says, it shows our reality. 
>> Behind the great names of the past there many others was ?eclipsed? by 
>> the great stars of the moment.
>> 
>> At this moment your interrogative sign still need a response that maybe 
>> don?t exist or there exist too many?. Diversity is our richness!
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 20 ag 2017, a les 1:05, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> W. Eugene Smith: ?I Didn?t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them??
>>> =================================
>>> Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> Probably one of the smartest things Eugene Smith ever said or made us 
>>> aware of!
>>> Yes another shooter may sometimes point out a "photo correction" we may 
>>> have missed regarding one of our own photos.
>>> However? It is our own eyes, gut feelings, technical wisdom and several 
>>> other items that guides each and every one of us in capturing a "beauty 
>>> we love with great passion!"
>>> Oh of course we're not always right! Nobody has ever been that good! 
>>> Including Eugene Smith and many of his era that today have some folks 
>>> bowing before them as "THE GREATS OF THE GREATEST!"
>>> Oh they were good for their day and equipment, no question! BUT TODAY== 
>>> 2017? 
>>> You betcha! Right here amongst the LUG we have some extremely fine 
>>> shooters I'd put up against those "old timers" under the conditions of 
>>> today's society" compared to the '20's-'30s-'40'etc! 
>>> The bottom line with these "wunderkin-shooter's of old" ===  SOCIETY OF 
>>> TO DAY? would eat them alive?" Or punch their brains out!
>>> One lugger right here about to have a magnificent exhibition in Chicago, 
>>> our very own "INVISABLE LLUIS!" of Barcelona! :-)
>>> If we could only bring Cartier Bresson and a couple of other "Hot Shot 
>>> Shooters of the past?" back for Lluis exhibition it would be most 
>>> interesting to hear their comments?  :-) 
>>> That's not going to happen, "unfortunately!"
>>> I still believe we have excellent photogs of all calibre's, in quality 
>>> today in many situations far superior to those of the long gone past.
>>> For what all that's worth? Maybe nothing? So I shall return to my quite 
>>> resting of a Saturday afternoon! Unfortunately! :-(
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. Ted Grant O. C. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll
>>> Sent: August-19-17 2:12 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
>>> 
>>> Gerry,
>>> 
>>> W. Eugene Smith: ?I Didn?t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them??
>>> 
>>> Cheers my friend!
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 19 ag 2017, a les 13:37, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Always shoot the image and forget the rules. If it looks right then it 
>>>> is right DESPITE the rules.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Aug 2017, at 11:13, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at 
>>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Jayanand, It is interesting, but it puts to me a question, 
>>>>> which one is the priority?
>>>>> 
>>>>> BE CREATIVE and put the rules 
>>>>> 
>>>>> or
>>>>> 
>>>>> PUT THE RULES and try creativity
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cartier-Bresson was basically instictive, but maybe one day someone 
>>>>> will put these grids on the digital screens and it will be amazing see 
>>>>> the people composing through it?. :-) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 18 ag 2017, a les 4:11, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
>>>>>> gmail.com> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those interested:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.diyphotography.net/breaking-masterful-composition-henri-cartier-bressons-photos/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>> 
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