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Subject: [Leica] ILFORD Pan 400
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:02:12 -0400
References: <CAEFt+w-dSY5-_bZ-E831D480i46Ww9TBcQvdOv8bhyRb6wnTbw@mail.gmail.com> <A256E227-2D39-4EF9-85EE-DFC922BC8C01@rabinergroup.com> <058FE276-207A-4DDB-A3EE-5E497854BEC6@icloud.com> <8D570BC3-A1CE-4B86-9192-783A32BA6718@frozenlight.eu> <CAEFt+w8YgZYjnPTqKdjgxbUjE8mOx39sRWxMEWiiCp8rjbBxtA@mail.gmail.com> <B787CF5A-239F-4131-AD7B-B52C52A84E8C@rabinergroup.com>

Also in 1879 with the starting of Ilford:
October 22 ? Using a filament of carbonized thread, Thomas Edison tests the 
first practical electric light bulb (it lasts 13? hours before burning out).
November 4 ? Thomas Edison applies for the patent for his invention, the 
incandescent light bulb. U.S. Patent 223,898 will be granted on January 27, 
1880.
It was important for lightbulbs to have been invented or no one would be 
able to turn on the light in the darkroom and ruin the Ilford darkroom paper.
I?m glad Ilford is still with us my life centered on them for decades. But 
I?ll never go back.
Elsewhere on the 1879 front:
Born:
January 1 ? E. M. Forster, English writer (d. 1970)
March 14 ? Albert Einstein, German-born physicist, Nobel Prize laureate (d. 
1955)
https://petapixel.com/2017/06/02/albert-einstein-patented-camera-electric-eye-1936/
March 27 ? Edward Steichen, Luxembourgeois-born painter/photographer (d. 
1973)
April 29 ? Sir Thomas Beecham, English conductor (d. 1961)
July 9 ? Ottorino Respighi, Italian composer, musicologist, and conductor 
(d. 1936) (Pines of Rome etc)
August 15 ? Ethel Barrymore, American actress of film and stage (d. 1959)
September 6 - Max Schreck, German actor (d. 1936)
November 4 ? Will Rogers, American humorist (d. 1935)
November 7 ? Leon Trotsky, Russian revolutionary (d. 1940)
December 18 ? Paul Klee, Swiss artist (d. 1940)
December 27 ? Sydney Greenstreet, British-born American film and stage actor 
(d. 1954)
It was a banner year for people of greatness being born. They?re all long 
dead. Not Ilford.

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 7/3/17, 12:47 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

    I thought they were bought out by somebody but no they were not they are 
still around and founded in 1879.
    Wikiing it we find:
    Pan F plus 50 (extremely fine grain) 
    FP4 plus 125
    HP5 plus 400
    Delta 100, 400, and 3200
    XP2 Super 400
    SFX 200
    Ilford PAN 100 and 400 (consumer grade, on selected markets)
    
    Those selected markets not being in the US of A but be being wherever 
you are.
    I see them in a package with a hole at the top so it can be hung on a 
circular rotating rack with the UV filters.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilford_Photo
    
    email them a jpeg and they will print it on their darkroom Ilford paper
    https://www.ilfordlab.com/
    
    also
    https://www.ilfordphoto.com/
    
    
     
    
    -- 
    
    Mark William Rabiner
    Photographer
    
    On 7/2/17, 8:14 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of dankhong 
at gmail.com> wrote:
    
        I am very sure because I am holding a box of 135 film which says 
ILFORD PAN
        400. In smaller print, "Harman technology Ltd Mobberley Cheshire UK".
        
        On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
frozenlight.eu> wrote:
        
        > Sorry, I thought he meant Delta 400. I do not think that is any 
Ilford
        > film with ?Pan? it is name other than PanF.
        >
        > In any event, the Delta 400 is the best 400 film there is IMO. And 
the
        > Delta 100 is good too. For really high speed, I always preferred 
Fuji
        > Neopan 1600, though.
        >
        > Cheers,
        > Nathan
        >
        > Nathan Wajsman
        > Alicante, Spain
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        >
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        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > > On 02 Jul 2017, at 09:36, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
icloud.com> wrote:
        > >
        > > Personally I had never heard of this film, and an Internet 
search seems
        > to indicate it is an alternative version of HP5+, a film that I 
never liked
        > very much because of its large grain. It seems to be that Pan 400 
is only
        > marketed in certain areas. I personally prefer T-grain films and in
        > particular the films made by Fuji. I have found their Neopan range,
        > including the 1600iso and the C-41 versions, very good and scan 
easily. As
        > always, these things are down to personal taste, and the Kodak 
T-Max range
        > and Tri-X have always been popular choices.
        > >
        > > Gerry
        > >
        > > Gerry Walden LRPS
        > > www.gwpics.com
        > > +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
        > > +44 (0)797 287 7932
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >> On 2 Jul 2017, at 07:55, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
        > >>
        > >> There is or was Ilford Delta 400 a tab grain film which is 
great. And
        > Hp5 a more traditional film.
        > >> I always use tab grain films they are twice as sharp and twice 
as fine
        > grain as traditional films.
        > >> One of the few films I never has any luck with was HP5. IN any
        > developer dilution combination, I ever tried it with.
        > >> Delta 400 with Xtol 1:3 will make people think you are shooting 
a 100
        > film or slower.
        > >> Tri x has been reformulated since I last used it. I last used 
it in
        > 1999 and the tab grain films ?Neopan 1600 and 400? put it to shame.
        > >> I?ll never use it again. Another reason is the cloying adulates 
it gets
        > on internet chat lists from people who couldn?t find themselves in 
or out
        > of a darkroom.?
        > >> It was invented in 1955. Way past the golden age of black and 
white
        > photography so if you want that don?t use Tri x.
        > >>
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> --
        > >>
        > >> Mark William Rabiner
        > >> Photographer
        > >>
        > >> On 7/2/17, 1:44 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong" 
<lug-bounces+mark=
        > rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of dankhong at 
gmail.com> wrote:
        > >>
        > >>   Folks
        > >>
        > >>   Has anyone got experience with this film? How does it compare 
to,
        > say, HP5
        > >>   and Tri-X?
        > >>
        > >>   Thanks.
        > >>
        > >>   Dan K.
        > >>
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In reply to: Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] ILFORD Pan 400)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] ILFORD Pan 400)
Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] ILFORD Pan 400)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] ILFORD Pan 400)