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Subject: [Leica] Xtol recomended dilutions
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 13:32:12 +0200
References: <D1B7D7E7-EC4B-457E-B8A5-6182A8810FEE@gmail.com> <D567CF26.866F2%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Chris, Dan

I will do 1+1 on my next two films, I want avoid long develping times. I?ve 
used HC110 many years ago, but I liked better ID11/D76

Cheers
Lluis



> El 15 juny 2017, a les 11:49, Christopher Crawford <chris at 
> chriscrawfordphoto.com> va escriure:
> 
> Its been years since I used Xtol. I never really liked the tonality as
> much as D-76, though Xtol does give finer grain. I got best results
> diluted 1+1.
> 
> Be careful with higher dilutions. Kodak, when it first came out, listed
> times for 1+2 and 1+3 dilutions. A lot of photographers got severely
> underdeveloped negs with those dilutions, using Kodak?s times. Turns out,
> Xtol cannot stand being diluted that much unless you develop the film in a
> much larger tank than you normally need. I think there had to be 200ml of
> stock in the diluted developer for each roll, so for 1+3 developing, you
> could do only one roll in a 32ox tank that could hold four rolls!
> 
> Kodak published the minimum stock quantity needed but a lot of people
> ignored it and complained, so they just stopped publishing the times for
> the higher dilutions!
> 
> I actually have a copy in PDF format of the original Xtol info booklet,
> but the times would be off for Kodak films now since Kodak reformulated
> Tri-X and the Tmax films since then. They did publish times for Ilford
> films, which might still work if you?re interested in seeing it.
> 
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> On 6/15/17, 5:15 AM, "LUG on behalf of lluisripollphotography"
> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don?t have a large experience with Xtol, I?ve used for years ID11/D76.
>> I?ve developed my two last films of Bergger Pancro 400 in Xtol Stock at
>> the recomended time, but I?m unhappy with the results. I?ve used it in
>> stock to get the shortest developing time and minimize the grain effect.
>> 
>> I would like hear your experiences with Xtol, I mainly use FP4 and HP5.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
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