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Subject: [Leica] Scanner advice sought
From: hlritter at twc.com (Howard L Ritter Jr)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:33:58 -0500
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Bill?

If ~200-dpi resolution is just acceptable in a print, you need ~3400 dots 
along the long dimension of an 11 x 17 print. This means scanner resolution 
close to 2500 dpi on a 24 x 36-mm negative.

Many feel that, for prints that are to be viewed closely, ~300 dpi is 
needed, so a scanner that can achieve ~3500 dpi (if the grain structure of 
the film supports it, of course). My experience with my Epson V700 and Nikon 
Coolscan LS-5000 is that the flatbed is OK for casually viewed prints, but 
the dedicated 35mm scanner produces clearly superior results, as expected.

?howard


> On Feb 9, 2017, at 2:22 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Modern enough to get a scan that could go up to 11x17 or so. Don't know 
> anything about the Scan Dual II. I have a 5400 and the 120 scanner with a 
> holder modified for xpan negs. Both are regrettably inop. Scanner on 
> ground, so to speak.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Nichols
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 5:05 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Scanner advice sought
> 
> Bill,
> 
> How modern a scanner are you seeking?  I have a Scan Dual II in a box in
> a closet that hasn't been used since my son scanned a batch of images a
> few years ago.  Before that, I used it to digitize 50 yrs of film and
> slides.  Sorry that I don't have anything more modern.
> 
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> 
> On 2/8/2017 4:12 PM, Bill Pearce wrote:
>> Yes they have turned away all requests. And I'm appalled at the prices on 
>> ebay for pigs in pokes. Prices are sky high.
>> 
>> SCSI doesn't bother me, as I have an old SP box with all pertinent 
>> connection options available, that ran my two Minolta scanners.
>> 
>> Life sucks. We need a Minolta John Hermanson.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Sonny Carter
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 1:35 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Scanner advice sought
>> 
>> I presume you're speaking of the film scanner.   Last I heard, Precision
>> had the last of the spare parts. But I read they turned away people 
>> needing
>> repair.
>> 
>> If I recall, it is a SCSI machine, and that's a difficult connection to
>> make with newer computers.
>> 
>> That said, there are a number of Minolta film scanners on Ebay that might
>> be a better deal than trying to fix yours.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not to hijack this thread, but I need advice also. Does anyone know of
>>> someone who repairs Minolta scanners?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Bill Pearce
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sonny Carter
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2017 9:57 AM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Scanner advice sought
>>> 
>>> I'm scanning the Steel Magnolias Scrapbook as we speak, on my Expression
>>> 11000.   The book is out of print, so we're loading a pdf of it on our
>>> server for easy access. I disassembled a copy of it, and now scanning 
>>> page
>>> by page into Adobe Acrobat Pro using Vuescan, of course.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> True, if all your scanners are turned on and ready
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Aram <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sonny.  You don't even have to restart Vuescan to select another 
>>>> scanner.
>>>>> On
>>>>> the Input tab there is a Source box.  Just change scanners there from 
>>>>> the
>>>>> drop down.  Easy peasy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aram
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sonny Carter
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 4:04 PM
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Scanner advice sought
>>>>> 
>>>>> You don't need to go to Epson. Vuescan has drivers for all their
>>>>> supported
>>>>> scanners both win and apple.  You can run several scanners off the same
>>>>> computer.  You just need to select the scanner on startup. If you want
>>>>> to
>>>>> change scanners during a session, just restart vuescan, choose another
>>>>> scanner.
>>>>> 
>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>> 
>>>>> > On Feb 7, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Firmware...I don't have access to the scanner's firmware. Do you
>>>>> mean
>>>>> the
>>>>> > W10
>>>>> > drivers?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Peter
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On 06/02/2017 23:44, Stephen Barbour wrote:
>>>>> >> Male sure you are using correct firmware.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> s
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
>>>>> >>> summaventures.com>
>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Richard's comments about his scanner is timely.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I am trying to scan old negs as a prelude to doing some film
>>>>> work. I
>>>>> >>> had - and
>>>>> >>> used to use successfully - an EPSON Perfection 2400. However not
>>>>> having
>>>>> >>> used it
>>>>> >>> for several years it failed to work properly when I tried it under
>>>>> W10,
>>>>> >>> so I am
>>>>> >>> looking round for a new scanner to handle B&W 35mm film.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Anyone any suggestions?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Criteria: High quality and high resolution; able to handle
>>>>> strips as
>>>>> >>> well as
>>>>> >>> rolls; accurate; must produce TIFFs as well as other formats
>>>>> such as
>>>>> >>> JPEGs; good
>>>>> >>> tools desirable but not absolutely necessary given the present
>>>>> state
>>>>> of
>>>>> >>> PS etc.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Peter
>>>>> >>> --
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ===========================================================
>>>>> >>> Dr Peter Dzwig
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ===========================================================
>>>>> > Dr Peter Dzwig
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > Leica Users Group.
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sonny
>>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>> 1714
>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>> 
>>>> USA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sonny
>>> http://sonc.com/look/
>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>> 1714
>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>> 
>>> USA
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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