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Subject: [Leica] I think it can not be fixed
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:34:25 -0700
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> On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:25 AM, lluisripollphotography 
> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would like add another concept, imagine you shot a great image you want 
> it was preserved by collectors for years ?., IMHO only film give you this 
> 100% guarantee.


Just like it did of your photo of the woman.


Steve



> 
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 31 jul 2016, a les 19:20, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>> va escriure:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not Lluis, Steve, and I am no expert but I have recently gone back 
>>> to film for, say, 10-15% of my shooting. Why? Because it has some ?je ne 
>>> sais quoi? to it?tonality, magic, whatever.
>> 
>> Agree Nathan, but maybe the experience is entirely, "in the brain".
>> I suspect if we put up 50 digital images; and 50 film images and  tested 
>> our ability to tell the difference, we would be right, probably as much 
>> as  50 percent of the time.
>> 
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>>> And there is a distinct pleasure in shooting my Leica M2 with period 
>>> lenses like the 50mm Summilux from the 1960s or the 90mm Tele-Elmarit 
>>> that still deliver such superb images. It may not be wholly rational, 
>>> but nobody is paying me to take pictures?I have a good day job which 
>>> provides me with a decent living?so I can take pictures in whatever way 
>>> pleases me. 
>>> 
>>> I am going to spend a day with Lluis in his summer home, Sitges, about 
>>> 30 km south of Barcelona. The plan is to walk around with him, and 
>>> hopefully use his invisibilty cloak and his charm to get some decent 
>>> shots of my own. I plan to shoot mainly film?I will take a digital 
>>> camera with me to supplement the M2, but most likely it will be just the 
>>> Ricoh GR or perhaps the Fuji X-T1 with just one lens, the tiny but 
>>> superb 27mm.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 18:07, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lluis, a question to run by you, now an expert, if this same image has 
>>>> been shot digitally, would you have had more power to fix it, the way 
>>>> you would like?
>>>> 
>>>> many thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> amities,
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 8:56 AM, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Nathan, I forget it, as you say I have other images to work
>>>>> 
>>>>> Un abrazo
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 30 jul 2016, a les 7:15, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
>>>>>> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lluis, I am sure you can do something using Photoshop heroics and 
>>>>>> other voodoo but given how many great images you have in your files, 
>>>>>> it just does not seem worth the effort.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Un abrazo,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2016, at 02:30, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please take a look to this picture from 1992 (please view large), I 
>>>>>>> like very much the expression and the moment but the picture is bad, 
>>>>>>> beside the negative is dirty and I would have to clean, the picture 
>>>>>>> is undefined, out of focus, I think I can?t anything to improve it? 
>>>>>>> any idea?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Vintage/Vilanova_Vintage/199202007LR5.jpg.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c will be appreciated
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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