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Subject: [Leica] Stock Sales
From: imra at iol.ie (Douglas Barry)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 12:17:01 +0100
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerry Walden" <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Stock Sales


>I think Tina is thinking exactly like a business(wo)man and that is why she 
>is commenting on the ludicrous level of stock sale prices that Alamy are 
>now accepting. If you used to get $100 and you are now getting $2 you have 
>to question why that has happened and it is not because of the quality of 
>Tina?s images in any way whatsoever. It has more to do with the flooding of 
>the market by iPhone images etc. Yes Alamy, once a leading stock image 
>library, now accepts iPhone images.
>
> The other thing that worries me is that Alamy claim they have to price 
> according to the buyers location because the buyers location dictates 
> often what they can afford but these buyers are printing for major first 
> world countries who can well afford the prices being asked for. Have you 
> noticed the price of photobooks (for instance) going down. No, well 
> there?s 
> a surprise, but many of them are printed in third world countries that 
> Alamy claims cannot afford the previous prices.
>
> All of this contributes to ever lowering esteem that photographers are 
> held in, and all working photographers are quite justified in fighting 
> that. "$2 in a month or two is better than no money? is rather a crass 
> statement to make when the photographer is fighting for his/her place in 
> the world as a visual artist.
>
> Rant over!
>
> Gerry
>
>> On 13 Jul 2016, at 07:30, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Money after a month or two is better than no money!
>>
>> I think if you see photography as a livelihood, you have to think like a
>> businessman.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>> icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am having exactly the same problem Tina, and it makes Alamy virtually
>>> not worth dealing with, especially as you have to wait for months for 
>>> your
>>> money.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12 Jul 2016, at 23:08, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> PESO:
>>>>
>>>> Alamy just sold one of my Iran photos:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://tinamanley.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Iran/G0000YmlbTddL96g/I00000eLhbB.WvH4
>>>>
>>>> They sold it through a distributor for $7.  My share is $2.  I'll pay 
>>>> for
>>>> the trip in no time at that rate!!!
>>>>
>>>> Country: Czech Republic
>>>> Usage: Editorial
>>>> Media: Magazine - print, digital and electronic
>>>> Print run: up to 10,000
>>>> Placement: Inside
>>>> Image Size: 1 page
>>>> Start: 01 July 2015
>>>> End: 01 July 2020
>>>> Duration: 1 month. Bulk discount.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tina Manley
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>
>>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>>>
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