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Subject: [Leica] [OM] IMG: How can you get a dirty sensor with a camera that does not have interchangeable lenses?
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:21:30 +0200
References: <7468D6CE-EDDB-4F91-AAC0-0D3B16E346CA@frozenlight.eu> <B3FE1431-F3E1-4990-9ED7-6227A67F2096@gmail.com> <CAOQd94MaVTanhwXZqX5XSdeXjt4M63k3u+b9duvm4aW8yEb4=Q@mail.gmail.com> <5b15e6d5-e0f7-51ee-e9e7-3353da483b21@chucknorcutt.com> <A9CE3D10-D721-4482-BF83-BF037FEE02CB@frozenlight.eu> <CAFfkXxvYTGVcGkOYMWs4=sscOmh9GorSLiaqFsiX3NK3tCaT3A@mail.gmail.com>

Ask Nigel Farage in the UK, he seems to be an expert on 
how to get foreign bodies out:-(

On 24.06.2016 15:49, Sonny Carter wrote:
> Maybe you can shake the camera to dislodge it.  But then that might put the
> dust right in the bullseye!
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Chuck (and others who commented). The camera is not labelled or
>> marketed as weatherproof and since I live in a place that is very dry and
>> often windy, it is highly likely that a grain of dust got inside the
>> camera. I very much doubt that Panasonic would fix this under warranty 
>> (the
>> camera is out of warranty anyway), so I will just live with it and remove
>> the spot in LR when it is bothersome (as it is in the example I posted).
>>
>> Thanks again to all.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
>>
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>>> On 24 Jun 2016, at 14:21, Chuck Norcutt <chucknorcutt at 
>>> chucknorcutt.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On the contrary, I would expect the camera to be sealed precisely
>> because the sensor cannot be cleaned without at least partially
>> disassembling the camera.
>>> The spot looks exactly like many such spots I've seen on my Canon 5D. So
>> I also assume it's dust on the sensor.  Proof that it's dust on the sensor
>> would be to take successive photos of clear blue sky from wide open to
>> fully closed down.  At the LX-100's maximum aperture of f/1.7-2.8 the dust
>> bunny may be invisible or nearly so as a very light gray cloud.  As the
>> aperture closes down its shape will be more distinct (as in the image
>> below) and it will get much darker.
>>> I consider it a manufacturing defect.  Either the inside wasn't
>> perfectly dust free when it was made or dust/debris has been generated by
>> friction of mechanical motion such as by the shutter mechanism.
>>> In any case I would expect a warranty repair... even it it's beyond the
>> normal warranty period.  Adverse publicity to the hundreds or thousands of
>> avid photographers on multiple lists is probably not a good thing for
>> Panasonic.
>>> Finally, the do it yourself guide:
>>> <
>> https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Disassembling+Panasonic+LUMIX+DMC-LX100/55603
>>>
>>> Chuck Norcutt
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/2016 4:38 AM, Chris Weir wrote:
>>>> Dirt could get in through the gaps - I don't think that is a sealed
>> camera.
>>>> Or more likely a flake of paint or other internal debris.
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Philippe <
>> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Were it not repeated on other files I'd vote for a bird on that one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, it might be a speck that moved inside and might move again, shake
>> it
>>>>> baby.
>>>>> It will have to go back to Solms New Tokyo in any case I'm afraid
>>>>>
>>>>> Amities
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 24 juin 2016 ? 09:20, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> a
>> ?crit :
>>>>>> I noticed a while ago that images taken with my Panasonic LX 100 have
>> a
>>>>> smudge in the upper right part of the image:
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-Db2WtZM/A
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the camera does not have interchangeable lenses, I did not
>> expect
>>>>> dirt on the sensor, but that is apparently what it is?I see nothing on
>> the
>>>>> front element of the lens. And of course since I cannot take the lens
>> off,
>>>>> I cannot clean the sensor either. So I guess I am reduced to either
>>>>> cropping away the offending part of the image, or using the tools in
>> LR to
>>>>> get rid of the smudge.
>>>>>> Still, very annoying. Have others experienced something similar with
>>>>> this type of camera?
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>>>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>>>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>> YNWA
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In reply to: Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] IMG: How can you get a dirty sensor with a camera that does not have interchangeable lenses?)
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