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Subject: [Leica] The new Hasselblad is announced
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:28:15 -0500
References: <9E784D63-ADB0-4584-AE45-C13A045E6532@gmail.com> <519BAA5A-0BEF-4DF2-B3C5-82FA252D4A96@verizon.net> <48AAD378-977D-4787-BCFE-78E6A17728C8@gmail.com> <43EB763F-B9D9-4E85-B65E-EF9057B1FA9D@verizon.net> <35CF380C9BA04532A85A5DD8332C3B40@OWNERPC>

Having been a 645 user in another life, I can assure you that it uses 120
film, commonly known as medium format to photographers of my
generation. (credibility
unstretched or not)

645 is actually a pretty nice frame size, but like 35mm, it's best to pick
out as you shoot which you want, landscape or portrait.

No comes digital, and many cameras have the ability of setting the shape of
the image through menus,  my iPhone does it, and my Sony A7s does it.  I
don't think I get a choice with my M9.

The Leica M240 has choices in the video side.

No matter what, I really don't much care what shape the sensor is, because
I format an image to fit the composition, not the other way around.
That's why God gave us mattes.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> That's stretching credibility. One has little or nothing to do with the
> other.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Sonny Carter
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The new Hasselblad is announced
>
> I think 645 was called medium format because it used medium format film,
> not because of the frame size.
>
> from my iPad
>
> Sonny Carter
>
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Frank Verizon 2 2016 <red735i at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sometime in the long ago, some marketing guy thought the rather obscure
>> 645 size ( remember the A16 Hassy back?) was MF.  At that time, there was
>> 6x6 and 645.  ( and 6x7; 6x9; and even 6x8). All the numbers referred to
>> film size in mm.  They all used a common 120 film size.
>> Then someone thought that 6x6 was a dead end and there were no more 6x6
>> cameras being made. They were all 645....the other sizes went dead.
>> So magically, 645 became the MF standard (and only size).
>> With the advent of digital, 645 became a ratio (4:3), not a mm size, and
>> so now we have digital MF sensors that measure 44x33mm
>>
>> There are larger sensors.... But none measure 56x56 mm, the old time MF
>> standard
>>
>> We can only hope some sensor in the future will measure 56x56mm. My CF
>> lenses will cover the sensor, easily.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 6:58 PM, lluisripollphotography <
>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Neither for me I think, I don?t like operate on cameras in Menu mode
>> neither with EVF, on the other hand this one is not exactly a MF camera,
>> IMHO it is equivalent to a smaller 4,5 x 6, the CMOS sensor is 43.8 ?
>> 32.9mm, for me the true MF (at least in film)  is 60 x 60 mm (2 1/4" x 2
>> 1/4?).
>>
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El 22 juny 2016, a les 23:16, Frank Verizon 2 2016 <red735i at 
>> verizon.net>
>>> va escriure:
>>>
>>> Appears to be a Leica SL on steroids, at a discount store price.
>>> Does 2 lenses sound familiar?
>>> No zoom yet, no H lens adapter yet.
>>> Fully electronic lens to body connections mean that CF,C, and F lenses
>>> will not work, unless they make a special adapter available
>>>
>>> It is substantially lighter than my Leaf + 500CM system, a good thing.
>>>
>>> I am unconvinced it is a path for me.
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>>
>>> <http://www.hasselblad.com/x1d>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
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