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Subject: [Leica] Process and scan to disc question
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 01:35:52 -0700
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Silverfast does not scan as Raw, only Vuescan does, IIRC.


On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:30 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Richard for your considered and informative answer. Now I
> understand. I am not sure Silverfast will scan as any raw format but I will
> carry on scanning as .tiff for now while I look at things.
>
> Gerry
>
> > On 17 Mar 2016, at 07:41, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Gerry, there are two aspects of B&W scanning that you need to consider:
> >
> > 1) scan as negative or positive. Some people scan as "B&W neg" and some
> > people scan as "(RGB) positive" then invert in Photoshop or the like.
> Some
> > people claim that certain scanning software ALWAYS clip if you scan as
> B&W
> > neg (I believe NikonScan is one of them) so option 2) gives more fully
> > tonal result.
> >
> > 2) Save as Raw/DNG or TIFF/JPG. Note that TIFF is "full quality" where
> JPG
> > is compressed, but otherwise they are the same in this discussion.
> > Certainly, always save as TIFF rather than JPG as you want the highest
> > quality.
> >
> > If you save as TIFF/JPG, then usually you have the scanner software
> > applying some tone curves and such, so that the image looks pretty good
> > already, then it's minor way in LR/PSD to get to the final image. In this
> > regard, it's rather like having a digital camera saving the images as
> JPG.
> >
> > If you save as Raw/DNG, then the scanner software will try to maintain as
> > much information as possible, e.g. minimal tone curves and exposure
> > adjustments, so that it can be processed further post-scan. The downside
> is
> > that it takes a bit more work in LR/PSD to get to the final result. The
> > upside is that if you improve your LR/PSD skills or if better processing
> > software are to become available, then you can go back to the original
> > Raw/DNG file and redo it.
> >
> > ***
> > Personally, right now I scan as B&W neg or save in TIFF format. With
> medium
> > format /4x5 (I rarely shoot 35mm film any more), there is so much
> > information from those scans that I do not think it's worthwhile to use
> the
> > other options.
> >
> > YMMV.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
> > icloud.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A number (Peter, Lluis etc) have mentioned scanning b&w as either .tiff
> or
> >> even .dng. I cannot see any obvious advantage to this, so could somebody
> >> pease enlighten me. I tried a couple to .dng which was a pain in
> Lightroom
> >> as they came out as negatives and the sliders worked the wrong way. I am
> >> currently scanning as .tiff but (to be honest) don?t really know why.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >>
> >>
> >> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >> www.gwpics.com
> >> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
> >> +44 (0)797 287 7932
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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