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Subject: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:29:30 -0800
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my answers are here Nathan, similar to yours. I have met 8-15 LUG members 
over the years, many are my friends. I use, and love my Leica equipment, 
especially my Noctilux, S?cron 50mm f2 DR, monochrome and M9, the lenses are 
used on the Leica bodies, also on the Fuji XT-1 and Sony A7R M II bodies.

steve


> On Jan 31, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> 
> wrote:
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> There you have your answers. I have met somewhere between 20 and 30 LUG 
> members in person over the years, and many have become real friends.
> And BTW, I still use Leica equipment although more often than not it means 
> a Leica lens on a Fuji body.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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>> On 01 Feb 2016, at 01:54, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> HI Steve and CREW!
>> The LUG? Without question? 
>> It is a very strong part of my life, heart & soul without question. Gerry 
>> and I have had similar life experiences in the loss of our wives. The 
>> difference? Mine occurred here at home in Victoria. 
>> And Gerry? Well Sir you have felt the "CLOSENESS OF CREW" when it was 
>> most needed and felt! WHEN YOU WEREN'T EVEN IN YOUR OWN HOME NOR 
>> COUNTRY!<<<<  
>> And that my friends is how a family works, together strongly bonded when 
>> it seems all hell is descending upon us! Many of us respond willingly as 
>> though we truly were blood brothers & sisters! 
>> The "Family" responses from the LUG CREW were enormous! The offerings of 
>> sympathy, caring, prayers beyond ones wildest thoughts. They were real 
>> warm, close from the heart by so many, quite an amazing aspect of life 
>> among "what we might call a family off a computer screen for the most." 
>> 
>> Sure I'd say the few of us who've stood face to face and shared the warm 
>> introduction of friendship handshake they truly are that! 
>> A firm meaning of becoming friends that unfortunately? Is rarely found in 
>> the atmosphere of  Planet Earth lately.
>> Certainly with the strength by many of this most incredible group even 
>> with a bit of a spin-off from the original "LUG" by our very own Brien 
>> Reid  who sowed the seeds to grow into the power house group it is! Thank 
>> you Brien wherever you are? 
>> So there you are whomever? And in numbers? "THE LUG FOR ME ISN'T JUST A 
>> BUNCH OF CHATTER ON THE SCREEN?" Oh sure some days and weeks it becomes a 
>> chatter box to drive you crazy? Now that's quite an honest comment By 
>> me?? :-)  Probably one of the malcontents about the techies? :-) 
>> Hey techie guys "I REALLY DO LOVE YOU! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 
>> HELL YER' TALKIN' ABOUT!" OK be nice when you respond! thank you all 
>> folks as it's a "WRAP!"
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted OC  :-) 
>> ==============================================
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Gerry Walden
>> Sent: January-31-16 2:21 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica users group, LUG, so what does that mean?
>> 
>> When I switched away from leica gear some 12 years ago I said I should 
>> leave the LUG but was told that it was a Leica state of mind that was 
>> important. This is my ?family? and that came home to me very solidly when 
>> my dear wife died on a trip to meet fellow LUG members in Barcelona. The 
>> support I received in person from Lluis, Greg and others will never be 
>> forgotten by both me and my daughters. It got us through a very difficult 
>> time, and nothing was too much trouble. I will be eternally grateful for 
>> that - that is ?family?!
>> 
>> I am back to using Leica now because it is a state of mind: you eiether 
>> get it or you don?t.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 31 Jan 2016, at 21:30, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> I agree with most of what you say, but the LUG serves as a source of 
>>> information and camaraderie for many of us, regardless of the name or 
>>> point of origin.  To quote some ancient philosopher, "If it ain't broke, 
>>> don't fix it".
>>> 
>>> I started out with used Leica gear more than sixty years ago.  Why? 
>>> Because I did my due diligence and found it to be the best that I could 
>>> afford.  It served me well.  But, while raising a family, I limited my 
>>> purchases, and found used gear of other brands that served my needs.  
>>> Then, as film processors disappeared with the advent of digital, I 
>>> looked for a digital camera.  I found Olympus and Fuji gear that was 
>>> adaptable, for much less investment than Leica's products.  I even 
>>> purchased previously-owned Leica-R lenses to use with these cameras, 
>>> because I still loved the quality of Leica lenses. But, for amateur  
>>> use, I cannot justify new Leica gear at today's prices.
>>> 
>>> I enjoy reading of the experiences of others who do choose to buy and 
>>> use the new gear, and try to keep abreast of the times.  And, I think 
>>> our past dedication to Leica products keeps this list intact and 
>>> functional, regardless of the name on the camera we are currently 
>>> holding in our hands.
>>> 
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> 
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/2016 2:56 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>> Leica users group, LUG,  what does that mean?  Several individuals have 
>>>> confided to me recently, "it?s really a state of mind?.  Let?s face it, 
>>>> there are few offerings of interest from Leica these days, that we can 
>>>> afford, or desire to, while more and more  we all find great offerings 
>>>> from many other camera and lens makers. We all insist we are leica 
>>>> devotees, yet many of us, if not most, are using other makers' cameras 
>>>> and lenses. We often find that leica lenses from the past, actually 
>>>> work as well on other makers current camera bodies, sometimes better 
>>>> than on leica?s own bodies. We publish a wonderful yearly book of 
>>>> photos, that we call the LUG yearbook, yet insist that the photos can 
>>>> come from any and all camera/lens sources,  and images do originate 
>>>> from many other sources. We criticize robustly, even occasionally 
>>>> correctly, the offerings from Leica, their appearance, technical 
>>>> details, prices, yet we remain here and claim to be Leica users. So 
>>>> what is it that we have in common, that keeps here in this group, why 
>>>> do we self identify as Leica users ?
>>>> 
>>>> There are some truly great photographers here, not because they use 
>>>> leicas, other reasons may exist. We really are a community, sometimes 
>>>> even a family, occasionally very dysfunctional. Some of the most 
>>>> opinionated among us use leicas, or used to, or desire to, even though 
>>>> at present that use is limited, or nonexistent.
>>>> 
>>>> We are at present, among the most capable, open minded, flexible, sure 
>>>> of ourselves, opinionated, fractious, difficult, stuck up shooters that 
>>>> exist.
>>>> 
>>>> It may be time to talk.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> steve
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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